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electramet
Jun 25, 2025Aspirant
Orbi 970 startup issues with 4 or 5 satellites
We purchased an Orbi 970 with 3 satellite and added 4 all connected through a netgear 10g ethernet switch. We noticed some issues on boot up where they may boot up as wireless, or stuck in config sy...
FURRYe38
Jun 25, 2025Guru - Experienced User
What FW is loaded on the System, both RBR and RBS?
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router 📡 and satellite(s)🛰️? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR 📡 and RBS 🛰️ to begin with depending upon building materials when wired or wirelessly connected.
https://kb.netgear.com/31029/Where-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite 🛰
Are all RBS ethernet connected to the switch or only one or two?
What is the brand and model# of this switch?
Besure the switch is in between the RBR and RBS.
https://kb.netgear.com/000051205/What-is-Ethernet-backhaul-and-how-do-I-set-it-up-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System 📡 🛰
Be sure that your using good quality LAN cable between the RBR, switch and RBS. CAT6A STP is recommended.
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
Be sure your using a good quality LAN cable between the modem and router. CAT6A STP is recommended.
Also seems to be a limited number of RBS that can be connected to any BE series system as well: https://kb.netgear.com/000062035/How-many-satellites-can-you-add-to-an-Orbi-WiFi-System
electramet
Jun 25, 2025Aspirant
Latest firmware 9.12.5.3_1.3.4 all firmware is auto updated and is latest.
All 4 wired are connect to the netgear XS508M 10gig switch the router between the satellite are the only things on the switch.
definitely 2 wired and the wireless are less 30 feet. Two others wired maybe be slight longer like 40feet.
we are aware of the limit of what seems to be 4 wireless that is why we went with wired connections. I could easily with to 3 wireless and 2 wired.
MetroNet out of lexington is the internet provider. not sure of the modem.
We are using good quality industrial lan cable.
- FURRYe38Jun 25, 2025Guru - Experienced User
Well latest FW is here: Orbi Firmware Releases | NETGEAR Communities
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR 📡 and RBS 🛰️ to begin with depending upon building materials when wired or wirelessly connected. Less than 30 feet will be too close.
I bellieve that even regardless of wireless and wired mixes RBS, the hard limit is four RBS connected to the RBR total. Maybe running into this limit and thus it's not working correctly after the 5th RBS gets connected.
What is the CAT# LAN cable being used?
- electrametJun 25, 2025Aspirant
the tech note you sent indicates 6 satellites is the maximum.
i will measure and there is cement walls and some steel rebar between them which is why we went with wired.
- FURRYe38Jun 25, 2025Guru - Experienced User
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
Be sure you fully read the KB article as there are differences seen there.
Ah, ya, concrete and steel, will be problematic for any wireless MESH system.
I would turn OFF all RBS and run with just one at the remote location that has ethernet connection there. What I would do is first wirelessly sync the RBS near the RBR first to make sure it syncs fully, then ethernet connected to the back of the RBR. Make sure it sync's good there. All this while in same room as the RBR. Then once the ethernet BH is good, power OFF the RBS and place back in remote location with ethernet connection, connect ethernet to back of RBS and power it ON. Test and see if RBS connects fully over ETH BH. IF it does, then go to add another RBS. Use same process as above.
Do this for first 4 RBS only though.
- electrametJun 25, 2025Aspirant
So the firmware does not come up on automatic update. which is interesting. I guest I have to try manual update.
- FURRYe38Jun 25, 2025Guru - Experienced User
It won't for a bit longer. NG only pushes to some in small batches initally or have support cases with NG open.
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
Be sure you fully read the KB article as there are differences seen there.
- electrametJun 26, 2025Aspirant
it about 10000 sq feet, pretty big.
Updated firmware no change. Brought RBS one by one and sure the problem is with from 4 to 5 satellites.
Can you explained the backhaul thing to get more that 4 satellites according to the tech note about WIFI 7? I thought this how the satellites when wireless were being connected. Is there a setting i need to do to enable that?
I tried enable some combinations of wireless and wired without success