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Orbi 970 Wifi 7 speeds and 10 Gb ethernet backhaul (two questions for the group)
1. How can you check your ethernet backhaul speeds for 10Gbps? I have the Orbi 970 router connected to a 10Gbps unmanaged switch (which shows up as LAN 1), and each of my satellites is connected directly to the 10Gb switch, but the backhaul status just states "good." This is frustrating, as I want to verify that the 10Gb backhaul is running at 10Gb (and not 1Gb or some variant). NOTE: The 970 router and satellite SHOULD have more than one 10Gb port on them, so you can connect directly.
2. I have several Wifi-7 devices, however I can't check the bandwidth speeds of the wifi signal. It just states "connected to RBE971 5GHz+6GHz WiFi. and the IP and MAC address. No bandwidth speeds.
For both problems, I think Netgear should fix. Instead of saying "good" for backhaul speeds on ethernet backhaul, it should state good and the bandwidth speeds between router and satellite. For the Wifi speeds, that seems to be a simple fix.
p.s. I did check "show statistics" and the 10GB interfaces do not even show up
| Port | Status | TxPkts | RxPkts | Collisions | Tx B/s | Rx B/s | Up Time |
| WAN | 1000M/Full | 107797070 | 294193650 | 0 | 282 | 6474 | 5 days 14:26:25 |
| LAN1 | 10000M/Full | 294610899 | 130221100 | 0 | 7217 | 4458 | 5 days 14:26:25 |
| LAN2 | Link Down | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -- |
| LAN3 | Link Down | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -- |
| LAN4 | Link Down | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -- |
| LAN5 | Link Down | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -- |
| 2.4 GHz WLAN b/g/n/ax | 573.5M | 11836777 | 421785 | 0 | 2397 | 125 | 5 days 14:27:56 |
| 5 GHz WLAN a/n/ac/ax/be | 5765M | 21170134 | 1828222 | 0 | 5445 | 627 | 5 days 14:27:56 |
| 6 GHz WLAN a/n/ac/ax/be | 11530M | 30764561 | 4196028 | 0 | 1340 | 6714 | 5 days 14:27:56 |
| 2.4 GHz WLAN Backhaul | 573.5M | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 days 14:27:56 |
| 5 GHz WLAN Backhaul | 8647.5M | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 days 14:27:56 |
| 6 GHz WLAN Backhaul | 11530M | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 days 14:27:56 |
If you have a switch in between the RBR and RBS, then this is the backhaul for ethernet RBS. If your seeing 10Gb on the RBRs web page and the switch indicates 10Gb connections from the RBS being connected there, then the system is running at 10Gb BH speeds. The speeds for the backhaul on the RBRs web page is only for the wireless backhaul when the RBS are wirelessly connected to the RBR. This is how this works and intended design. No real need to see the wired backhaul as that is mostly a static speed and connection rate speed maxes out if all devices and cabling are in good working order and connected between the RBR, 10Gb supporting switch and the RBS. Most switches have LED indications of connected devices and the speed they are connecting at. Just check the switch.
For WiFi devices you can check the connection rate speed at the device like on OS PC platforms will have a connection speed displayed for the wifi adapter that is supporting of WiFi7. Mobile devices can be a bit harder however there are some apps that can give connection rate speeds. I used to use WiFi SweetSpots for checking live connection rates on my phone. Not sure if that still available or maybe something different or newer.
The user documentation may need updating however just gives general information. It's mostly accurate.
Tamangog2 wrote:
1. How can you check your ethernet backhaul speeds for 10Gbps? I have the Orbi 970 router connected to a 10Gbps unmanaged switch (which shows up as LAN 1), and each of my satellites is connected directly to the 10Gb switch, but the backhaul status just states "good." This is frustrating, as I want to verify that the 10Gb backhaul is running at 10Gb (and not 1Gb or some variant). NOTE: The 970 router and satellite SHOULD have more than one 10Gb port on them, so you can connect directly.
2. I have several Wifi-7 devices, however I can't check the bandwidth speeds of the wifi signal. It just states "connected to RBE971 5GHz+6GHz WiFi. and the IP and MAC address. No bandwidth speeds.
For both problems, I think Netgear should fix. Instead of saying "good" for backhaul speeds on ethernet backhaul, it should state good and the bandwidth speeds between router and satellite. For the Wifi speeds, that seems to be a simple fix.
p.s. I did check "show statistics" and the 10GB interfaces do not even show up
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time WAN 1000M/Full 107797070 294193650 0 282 6474 5 days 14:26:25 LAN1 10000M/Full 294610899 130221100 0 7217 4458 5 days 14:26:25 LAN2 Link Down 0 0 0 0 0 -- LAN3 Link Down 0 0 0 0 0 -- LAN4 Link Down 0 0 0 0 0 -- LAN5 Link Down 0 0 0 0 0 -- 2.4 GHz WLAN b/g/n/ax 573.5M 11836777 421785 0 2397 125 5 days 14:27:56 5 GHz WLAN a/n/ac/ax/be 5765M 21170134 1828222 0 5445 627 5 days 14:27:56 6 GHz WLAN a/n/ac/ax/be 11530M 30764561 4196028 0 1340 6714 5 days 14:27:56 2.4 GHz WLAN Backhaul 573.5M 0 0 0 0 0 5 days 14:27:56 5 GHz WLAN Backhaul 8647.5M 0 0 0 0 0 5 days 14:27:56 6 GHz WLAN Backhaul 11530M 0 0 0 0 0 5 days 14:27:56
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thats a fantastic idea. I actually ran into a similar situation (at 2.5gig) where my one satellite would max out at 94mbps. Was a PITA to figure out where the issue was. Luckily it was a bad cable versus one of my terminations/keystone jacks.
It'd have been a lot easier diagnosing with that ability.
Tamangog2 wrote:
p.s. I did check "show statistics" and the 10GB interfaces do not even show up
LAN 1 very clearly shows the connection at 10000M/Full. That is 10 Gigabits/Full Duplex, (as described in Point 1)
There is only one 10GBps LAN port: The other LAN ports are 2.5Gbps Ethernet.
https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBE971B/RBE971B_TS.pdf
The Orbi router cannot report the speed "between router and satellite" as it knows only that the router is connected at 10Gbps to the switch. What the connection does from there is unknown. (For example, that switch might be connected to another ordinary 1Gbps Ethernet switch, which could be connected to the satellite, or to.....)
Your answer takes my original statement out of context. I stated that my connection from the Orbi router to the 10Gb switch is connected at 10Gb, but none of my satellites, which are connected to the same 10Gb ethernet switch (because of lack of 10 Gb ports on the Orbi) don't even show up as an Ethernet backhaul, which they are using.
"I have the Orbi 970 router connected to a 10Gbps unmanaged switch (which shows up as LAN 1), and each of my satellites is connected directly to the 10Gb switch, but the backhaul status just states "good.""
Trying to get Netgear to provide more information about these very expensive mesh routers.
Tamangog2 wrote:
Your answer takes my original statement out of context. I stated that my connection from the Orbi router to the 10Gb switch is connected at 10Gb, but none of my satellites, which are connected to the same 10Gb ethernet switch (because of lack of 10 Gb ports on the Orbi) don't even show up as an Ethernet backhaul, which they are using.
How are the satellite connections displayed on the Attached Devices screen (in addition to the word "Good")?
Is there perhaps a symbol of some sort?
- For Item 1), I understand you desire NG to provide confirmation of “wired” port speeds In/Out of the Router/Satellite ports. This would have easily been accomplished had the RBE970/971 mesh system included “port speed light indicators” for the wired back-haul connections to the RBE Router and Satellites.
Short of that, I can confirm my NG WiFi 7 mesh node port speeds are correct. I have 4 multi-speed non-managed switches that have two lights above each of the ports on the switch. Color combinations of the light(s) on the switch indicate if the cable in/out of each port on the switch is transmitting/receiving at 1/100, 2.5, 5, or 10 Gb.
For my RBE971/970 network, one non-managed switch correctly shows “10Gb” for the switch “In” port speed (I.e, when connected to 10Gb “Out” port on RBE971), and the other 3 switches correctly show “2.5 Gb” on the “In” port speed (I.e. when connected to one of the 2.5 Gb “Out” ports on the other four RBE971 ports).
My non-managed switch port speed indicator lights validate the NG speeds as advertised.
If your non-managed switch is not rated for multi-speed connections (I.e. rated for 1/10 Gb), it will not identify port speeds and possibly not function at speeds other than 1 or 10GB.
I’m not the Community expert, but your post made reference to “5Mhz+6Mhz”. I’ve only seen that combination displayed in the Orbi App the few days my Orbi was using wireless back-haul after I disconnected the wired back-haul connections. If I’m correct about my statement, I think the only other way to “measure” wireless connection speeds would be either related to the displayed link speed in the Orbi App, or with a speed test App installed on the connected device (Computer, cell phone, tablet, etc.). If you have a switch in between the RBR and RBS, then this is the backhaul for ethernet RBS. If your seeing 10Gb on the RBRs web page and the switch indicates 10Gb connections from the RBS being connected there, then the system is running at 10Gb BH speeds. The speeds for the backhaul on the RBRs web page is only for the wireless backhaul when the RBS are wirelessly connected to the RBR. This is how this works and intended design. No real need to see the wired backhaul as that is mostly a static speed and connection rate speed maxes out if all devices and cabling are in good working order and connected between the RBR, 10Gb supporting switch and the RBS. Most switches have LED indications of connected devices and the speed they are connecting at. Just check the switch.
For WiFi devices you can check the connection rate speed at the device like on OS PC platforms will have a connection speed displayed for the wifi adapter that is supporting of WiFi7. Mobile devices can be a bit harder however there are some apps that can give connection rate speeds. I used to use WiFi SweetSpots for checking live connection rates on my phone. Not sure if that still available or maybe something different or newer.
The user documentation may need updating however just gives general information. It's mostly accurate.
Tamangog2 wrote:
1. How can you check your ethernet backhaul speeds for 10Gbps? I have the Orbi 970 router connected to a 10Gbps unmanaged switch (which shows up as LAN 1), and each of my satellites is connected directly to the 10Gb switch, but the backhaul status just states "good." This is frustrating, as I want to verify that the 10Gb backhaul is running at 10Gb (and not 1Gb or some variant). NOTE: The 970 router and satellite SHOULD have more than one 10Gb port on them, so you can connect directly.
2. I have several Wifi-7 devices, however I can't check the bandwidth speeds of the wifi signal. It just states "connected to RBE971 5GHz+6GHz WiFi. and the IP and MAC address. No bandwidth speeds.
For both problems, I think Netgear should fix. Instead of saying "good" for backhaul speeds on ethernet backhaul, it should state good and the bandwidth speeds between router and satellite. For the Wifi speeds, that seems to be a simple fix.
p.s. I did check "show statistics" and the 10GB interfaces do not even show up
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time WAN 1000M/Full 107797070 294193650 0 282 6474 5 days 14:26:25 LAN1 10000M/Full 294610899 130221100 0 7217 4458 5 days 14:26:25 LAN2 Link Down 0 0 0 0 0 -- LAN3 Link Down 0 0 0 0 0 -- LAN4 Link Down 0 0 0 0 0 -- LAN5 Link Down 0 0 0 0 0 -- 2.4 GHz WLAN b/g/n/ax 573.5M 11836777 421785 0 2397 125 5 days 14:27:56 5 GHz WLAN a/n/ac/ax/be 5765M 21170134 1828222 0 5445 627 5 days 14:27:56 6 GHz WLAN a/n/ac/ax/be 11530M 30764561 4196028 0 1340 6714 5 days 14:27:56 2.4 GHz WLAN Backhaul 573.5M 0 0 0 0 0 5 days 14:27:56 5 GHz WLAN Backhaul 8647.5M 0 0 0 0 0 5 days 14:27:56 6 GHz WLAN Backhaul 11530M 0 0 0 0 0 5 days 14:27:56
