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Apr 28, 2026Luminary
WIFI 8
You all see wifi 8 is now a thing and other companies promoting it. I thought the orbi 970 was future proofing ? with this new wifi 8 it seems like we are soon to be getting new hardware again for wi...
schumaku
Apr 29, 2026Guru - Experienced User
StephenB wrote:That said, there is more to WiFi 7 than 6 ghz - including more efficient modulation and MLO.
For both WiFi 7 and WiFi 8 the max theoretical data rate is 46 Gb/s.
I'm always buffed on how people are walking into marketing traps.
One good example is Multi-Link Operation (MLO). While this looks interesting, fancy, and very promising to reach higher bandwidth over the air, almost the only application for MLO are wireless backhaul on real-word-existing Mesh system. Almost and of April 2026 now, there are virtually -no- real concurrent usage MLO wireless clients available. Another overly marketing pushy Wi-Fi vendor still writes:
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MLO also requires MLO-compatible client devices, such as laptops with Intel BE200 wireless adapters, the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, and the Google Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro.
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Education or marketing? Pure marketing lies! None of these devices are (or will ever) supporting true MLO. They might allow just MLSR (Multi-Link Single Radio) or EMLSR (Enhanced Multi-Link Single Radio). True MLO - with all marketing promises attached - would mean Async MLMR (Asynchronous Multi-Link Multi-Radio) or Sync MLMR (Synchronous Multi-Link Multi-Radio).
You know, why? Neither there is enough power available on the common industry standard whatever-laptop-PCI slots, nor on a single USB-C. Laptop PCIe-slots with PCIe Gen 3 operates at 8 GT/s (gigatransfers per second) which roughly translates to 1 GB/s per PCIe lane. On newer laptops by comparison, PCIe Gen 4 operates at 16 GT/s, or around 2 GB/s (gigabytes per second) per PCIe lane. All speeds are simplex, so one way only, no concurrent duplex. Sure, dreamers are talking of PCIe Gen 5 operating at 32 GT/s, or about 8 GB/s - something still to come.
The mechanical format of M.2 (NGFF) Connector is limited to max four lanes: PCIe x4 (main interface for high-performance NVMe SSDs), SATA (optional, depending on host support). Three socket types exist:
- Socket 1, typically wireless (Wi‑Fi/Bluetooth), often Key A/E (PCIe x1)
- Socket 2, typically WWAN or SSD (SATA/PCIe x2) on some designs.
- Socket 3, typically NVMe storage (PCIe x4 or PCIe x2 + SATA, PCIe x4), commonly Key M or B+M.
Rounding up, USB
- USB 3.2 Gen 1x1 (raw data rate 500 MB/s, 5 Gb/s)
- USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 (raw data rate 1212 MB/s, 10 Gb/s)
- USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 (raw data rate 2424 MB/s, 20 Gb/s)
So how these WiFi 7 and WiFi 8 bandwidth should come in reality from any device (real world mobile devices, notebooks, ...) to the air is out in the blue.
StephenB wrote:Though MLO is still a work-in-progress for Netgear (and other vendors).
True MLO concurrently using more than a single band certainly has a future where high performance wired copper or fiber connections aren't an option - in true MLO . This comes - as Orbi 9 customers already know - comes at a (high) price point.
The currently unique full MLO capable WiFi 7 client (UniFi AirWire) is - while comparably inexpensive - perfect proof what effort is required on the host side to provide the physical connections(!) to allow Sync MLMR (Synchronous Multi-Link Multi-Radio) - this is what allows their STR MLO - in my understanding requiring more power than a common single USB 3.2 port on a host does supply) .
However, this continues to be a niche market for now, no matter if we're talking of WiFi 7 or WiFi 8.
StephenB
Apr 29, 2026Guru - Experienced User
schumaku wrote:One good example is Multi-Link Operation (MLO). While this looks interesting, fancy, and very promising to reach higher bandwidth over the air, almost the only application for MLO are wireless backhaul on real-word-existing Mesh system.
FWIW, I also am skeptical about MLO becoming mainstream in clients anytime soon (and I wouldn't be surprised if it never goes mainstream).