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OrbiTechDude
Jun 06, 2025Apprentice
The community has waited six months for a firmware update
NETGEAR, the community has waited six months for a firmware update, yet critical issues persist—especially regarding wireless backhaul performance, Apple device compatibility, and overall network sta...
OrbiTechDude
Jun 24, 2025Apprentice
Thank you very much for listing everything to the T,BedfordHome .FURRYe38 , I don’t care if this offends you. I’m sick and tired of your standard response every time there WIDESPREAD issues with his system. I have shielded Cat6A everywhere in the home and things are fast and speedy consistently AS LONG as I have no wireless backhauled satellites connected. Minute I add wireless backhauled alongside wired, speeds get capped at 150-200down out of my 300down, 50up plan from my ISP. I have changed my DNS servers to 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 and that has helped, but very minimally.
It’s Netgear’s crappy firmware that I have yet to see an ounce of care to address no matter if I contact support or share my frustrations here. Turning off randomizes, etc. is redundant. I HAVE NO INTERFERENCE, I know how to avoid it and I have no neighbors immediately adjacent. It’s not an interference problem and all satellites are adequately placed. Your experiences are meaningless because you don’t have the same variables. All of your satellites are wired, which is why (and I have told you this many times) you will not see any issues.I can get the speeds back to max from ISP if I stay with hardwired satellites only, but I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO REMAIN LIKE THIS. The whole point of a mesh system is to primarily be wireless, but hardwired where needed. I am holding them accountable and I don’t care how long it takes, this is a Netgear issue, not anyone else’s.
Why they can’t figure these issues out or listen to more than 5 people complaining about the system is beyond me. This community is flooded with reports.
BedfordHome
Jul 03, 2025Guide
OrbiTechDude... I appreciate your points fully. It is incredibly frustrating to learn of this level of poor product quality when you think that this is not their initial orbi release! They've had 700 and 800 series products where the basics of IPv6, memory management, UI device/state presentation, mesh technology and overall network stability matters should have been worked out. A four RBS limit was known back in the 7xx and 8xx days several years ago. I actually asked and have written chat response saying that this problem was resolved in the 9xx series. Clearly it was not as admited to in a recent chat.
I too was working in a home where there are NO competing WiFi signals from neighbors - the only RF sources from one HP printer (which I turned off) and some nanny-cams. But NG tech support jumps to the conclusion that my problems were due to wireless factors. The joke is all RBS are 10G LAN attached to RBR. Go figure.
I am fortunate because my client didn't fire me and decided to give me a second chance. I ended up reviewing the NG small business PR60X with WBE750 access points and the ASUS ZenWiFi. I ended up going with the ASUS product as I have over a hundred systems installed with ASUS over the past decades. As an old man, I just need a life without drama. I felt ASUS would give me that.
I respect all your posts orbitechdude (others as well you know who you are). What it amounts to was my customer has only a femto-second of patience. He decided to 'chuck' the Orbi because we haven't any knowledge on when' NG will fix the problems.
I just installed the ASUS gear 3 days ago using the same 10G LAN switch and cabling used in the Orbi project. All satellites are wired backhauled and the network monitoring gear reports no device outages/crashes, no outages by Verizon FIOS, all wired client-side devices remain attached since the install.
The call I received from NG support an hour ago confirms I did well to abandon the Orbi for this size product. The message received from NG regarding this new firmware was that it addressed an improvement on stability but not to the level I needed (i.e., 1 RBR and 6 RBS). They said the engineers were not able to get beyond 4 RBS and maintain stability; they asked me to prune the netz down to 4 RBS. WIth 20K sqft to cover that is not possible. I did ask if they would share where the instability is occurring, but no commitment to find out was offered; and thus.. A "Waiting for Godot" situation was happening given no detail on cause was shared nor a committed to delivery date to fix the max 4-RBS limit. They also said that Orbi 970/971 was not designed for larger homes. Something the NG advertising literature, websites and sales channels omit from their guidance!!! Shame!!
The small-business product was tempting but given this was a 'Second/Last Chance" situation for me with this long-term customer, I had to eliminate as many unknowns as I could to succeed.
You're right asking to be part of the 'inner group' to know what work arounds you might be able to share with others on this forum. But in the absence of such inner participation, we can only guess at possible remedies based on the actions we have each taken. We generously share those thoughts and ideas on this forum which is all we can do; unless you can do a back-hoe replacement.
I wish you happier days and better success soon. Thank you for your detailed lists and insights.. marcel villaflor for the "BedfordHome"
- OrbiTechDudeJul 03, 2025Apprentice
I saw a post somewhere, forgot exactly where of finding that the newer Orbi systems need ECS capable DNS servers in order to perform as expected.
So far (knock on wood), the change from my ISP’s servers I have used for years in all my systems to Quad9’s ECS enabled DNS servers has allowed maximum bandwidth consistency from my ISP plan across all of my devices (INCLUDING my Apple TV 4K boxes).
My ISP doesn’t support IPv4, but as Apple devices perform better with IPv6 along with my Ubiquiti equipment, I did a IPv6 in 6to4Tunnel mode and specified the below IPv6 DNS servers as well.Quad9 Secured DNS w/ECS: Malware blocking, DNSSEC Validation, ECS enabled
IPv4
9.9.9.11149.112.112.11
IPv6
2620:fe::112620:fe::fe:11
HTTPS
https://dns11.quad9.net/dns-query
TLS
tls://dns11.quad9.net