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jjjhawk88's avatar
Mar 17, 2021

AX5400 Starts Dropping Wi-Fi During Big Downloads

Hello Netgear Community, 

 

I'm hoping to get some help here.  I've been trying to figure out a problem that has been plauging my house hold for about 9 months.  In short, if both my wife and I are connected via Wi-Fi or LAN to the router and working, internet will start dropping for one or both of us.  This most often occurs if we are both on video calls with video going or if downloading files of significant size.  I have actually now installed an ethernet port expander.  I plug my work computer via LAN into the ethernet port expander and my wife's computer is directly into the Router.  With this setup, internet has been considerbly better.  If my wife does experience internet issues, my connection via the ethernet port expander is never touched.  Therefore I feel the router is the problem.  Last night I was downloading a new game to my PS where the PS was connected via LAN to the router.  As soon as I started to download the game, every connected Wi-Fi device dropped Wi-Fi for ~10 minutes.  Wi-Fi then came back and seemed to maintain the rest of the evening.  My game continued to download and was never interuppted.  In most cases I do have to reset the Wi-Fi router to get things back in line.

 

I've searched the forums and do see this topic dicussed all over the place.  Although none quite match my experience.  This issue has persisted across multiple router software updates.  It feels like the Wi-Fi router, when pulling large downloads, is trying to manage resources so it start **bleep**ting Wi-Fi down to other devices.  OoS is off, but it is set to allow Internet Speed Test to determine bandwidth.  That is the default setting.  For the life of me I can't determine what's going on.  Any advice would be helpful.  If I've left any details out please ask and I'll answer.

 

Thanks in advance!

7 Replies

  • It's probably important to also note this is our second Netgear router this issue is occuring with.  When the issue first started, we were using a Netgear AC2300 Model: R7000P. We wondered if it were hardware related so we purchased this new AX5400.  

      • jjjhawk88's avatar
        jjjhawk88
        Tutor

        Thanks for the reply Christian_R . I did contact Netgear support when this first started to happen.  At that time there was little information to go on, so they required that I make sure it wasn't the ISP and then give them a call back once I had excluded the ISP as the issue.  I don't necessarily know how to definitivley do that, but I'm pretty sure my current setup excluded the ISP since anything connected to the router Wi-Fi is shut off but anything connected to my LAN port extender is fine and has no trouble.  I may try and give them another call, but I feel like it's a setting that I'm not yet identifying driving the issue.  I thought a post here might provide an quicker answer.

         

        Thanks again!

  • Is the router using any DFS channels?

     

    If possible, check the router page (often 192.168.1.1) and head to the advanced tab.

     

    After that, scroll down to the page labeled Wireless Settings (5GHz), and tell us which channels are beingused.

     

    If it is using a DFS channel and your home is located within 10 miles of an airport, or on a flght path used for landings, you will be very likely to encounter issues with DFS channels which will cause clients to randomly disconnect when the router detects any radar use.

     

    Also if using smart connect, some older clients may not reconect fast enough during a band steering event if the router tries to move them to a different band, that can also cause connection issues, in which case, you may need to disable it.

    • jjjhawk88's avatar
      jjjhawk88
      Tutor

      Thank you for the reply Razor512, I don't believe I'm using any DFS channels.  This router is at default settings out of the box outside of me selecting Channel 1 as the only channel to use since other channels appeared to potentially have a lot of surrounding interference.  This issue existed before I changed the channel and has existed after, although since moving to channel 1 it has been slightly better, but not by much.  

       

      I followed your instructions and did find 5GHz, but there were no channels listed.  I do live within 10 miles of two small airports.  But, these drop outs only occur when either downloading a large file for a gaming system or when both my wife and I are on Zoom calls and streaming videos.  Under any other circumstance it's fine.  

       

      One side effect of this issue that cropped up is that devices that are often powered off (printers, PS4) when powered on they will not get an IP address.  I have to reboot the router and the device in order for it to dump the self assigned IP and pick up a valid IP.  This never happened until we started working from home and demanding more from our ISP and router.

      • Razor512's avatar
        Razor512
        Prodigy

        By default, if that router is using any channel between 36 and 48 on the 5GHz band then by default, it is using DFS channels, as it defaults to 160MHz vhannel width.

         

        This is why you will often see something like this on the advanced tab. 36 + 40 + 44(P) + 48 + 52 + 56 + 60 + 64

        In those cases, the only way to change that behavior, is to leave the default settings, and change the mode from "Up to 4800Mbps" to "Up to 2400Mbps" that will set the router to use 80MHz channel width and thus not use DFS channels.

         

        As for the IP address issues, check if those devices are getting a 169.254 IP address. If they are, then it means something is prevent them from receiving replies to their DHCP requests.

        If the issue is the DHCP server in the router, then the issue will also impact wired PCs, e.g., if you restart a wired PC, or simply open a cmd window and enter the following commands:

         

        ipconfig /release

        ipconfig /renew

         

        If they fail to get an IP over Ethernet, then it could mean for some reason the DHCP server in the router has stopped responding.