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Corneileous
Jul 02, 2025Aspirant
Instructions for setting up nighthawk RAX41 to use with my ISP router in bridge or modem mode.
Just as the title states, I’m looking for advice on how I need to set this router up when I return it back to router mode that will be connected via ethernet cable to one of the outputs of my ISP pro...
FURRYe38
Jul 02, 2025Guru - Experienced User
If you set the ISP router to bridge or modem only mode, then would be simple to just connect up the NG router and setup from scratch normally which the NG router would need to be in router mode.
Your ISP Modem already has a built in router and wifi. This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router.
New: https://community.netgear.com/kb/en-orbi-knowledge-sharing/static-ip-address-configuration-for-ap-mode/2456256
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-WIFI-6-AX-AND-Wi-Fi-6E-AXE/Procedure-for-Factory-reset-of-RBS850/m-p/2367505/highlight/true#M53985
https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
Try option #2 first...
https://kb.netgear.com/000061277/Which-features-are-disabled-on-my-Orbi-router-when-it-is-set-to-AP-Mode
https://kb.netgear.com/22697/How-do-I-install-my-NETGEAR-router-using-the-router-web-interface
- CorneileousJul 03, 2025Aspirant
So then there isn't anything special or specific that I'd need to do to my NG router? I can just simply reboot it into factory configuration, reconnect the ethernet cable from the output of my now bridged/modem mode ISP router to the internet input of my NG just the same as if I was not dong anything at all to the ISP router and using my NG to completely replace it?
Like I told Mr CrimpOn, the NG tech support person I was able to talk to today didn't tell me what all I'd have to do because I refuse to pay anybody for tech support but they did say I couldn't just factory reboot my router and expect it to work when connected now to a router thats in modem/bridge mode and expect it to work.
- FURRYe38Jul 03, 2025Guru - Experienced User
Something to ask the ISP about. Some ISPs require there equipement to be used. The ISP will know this.
- CorneileousJul 03, 2025Aspirant
I’ve already spoke with my ISP about this several times and they have no problem with me using my router completely by itself or even setting their router into bridge mode and even offered to do it for me so that all I have to do is basically reconfigure my router back into normal router mode.
Actually, they insisted that they do this, setting my ISP router into bridge mode so that they can make sure it’s done properly and that if anything happens, they won’t be able to blame me for it because they did it themselves but again, they have no problem with me doing this and even told me this might make things work a lot better, even better than just using my router to completely replace their router.
But you’re saying they should know what specific changes, if there are any, that I have to do to my Netgear router?