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RAX80 vs R9000 vs Whatever
Hi!
I recently upgraded my internet to Gigabit and my R7000 just isn't up to the job.
I've been looking at the RAX80 (AX6000) and the R9000 (X10). They are the same price. I'm strugglin...
Zman112233 wrote:
I recently upgraded my internet to Gigabit and my R7000 just isn't up to the job.
Out of interest, what does that mean?
What features are missing? What is going too slow?
Your wishlist doesn't contain much where I'd expect to see a big difference, especially the bits that you don't expect to use.
I'm with the recommendations for the R7800, but I have also used an R7000P. For many purposes, you aren't going to see huge differences. You may even lose some of the things that Netgear added, such as support for Disney Circle, Armor or something else that comes with Netgear's customised firmware.
Zman112233 wrote:
- As silly as it sounds, the AX80 looks better
There's no accounting for taste, but that is as good a way as any of choosing. But for new stuff like the RAX80 it is worth waiting for Netgear to iron out the bugs. The R7800 is now well established, but even that has it issues from time to time. Do you use Pi-hole, for example?
michaelkenward The R7000 just doesn't seem to have the hardward to run Gigabit speeds, especially when features are turned on.
If factory reset my max wired throughput is 600Mbps. If I disable QoS, traffic meter, UPnP, etc. my max throughput is 300Mbps. Once I enable MAC access control it drops down to 250Mbps. I even contacted Netgear and they said that the R7000 really isn't meant to handle true Gigabit. They said R7800 would be the bare minimum to get what I needed.
After reading some reviews on the RAX80 it seems like it's not ready for primetime and most reviews didn't recommend it. The R9000 is only about $150 more than the R7800 and most of the reviews I read put it anywhere from 13-20% faster than the R7800. Not saying that difference is a game changer, but in the grand scheme of things, spending $150 extra on something I use every single day isn't a big deal.
Hopefully that helped answer some of your questions.
Zman112233 wrote:
michaelkenward The R7000 just doesn't seem to have the hardward to run Gigabit speeds, especially when features are turned on.
At Gigabit speeds, QoS is going to slow down any device. It isn't needed at those speeds, and just gets in the way. Some say that anything over 300 Mbps can live without QoS.
Serious gamers prefer something like the DumaOS, which is the firmware on the XR500, a router that is actually modelled on the hardware of the R7800, but with a healthy price mark up for something that is as ugly as sin.
Most "features" will eat some processing power, but the R7800 should handle that more easily than an R7000.
The R9000 is only about $150 more than the R7800 and most of the reviews I read put it anywhere from 13-20% faster than the R7800. Not saying that difference is a game changer, but in the grand scheme of things, spending $150 extra on something I use every single day isn't a big deal.What does "faster" mean? I take measurements like that with a trainload of salt. Real world experience is what I go by.
From what I read here, most people using an R7800 seem to get near the maximum out of Gb internet. As to wifi speeds, that is down the clients as much as the sources.
But I'm sure that a few go-fast stripes on the side won't go amiss.
R7800 is best of breed for Netgear routers. It has fewer firmware issues and has very good performance. If you want a Netgear router with minimum of issues go with the r7800. Still have mine sitting on shelf as a just in case.
With the r7800 you can install Voxel's great firmware based on Netgear OEM, plus can also install other 3rd party such as DD-WRT and Openwrt/LEDE if you like to experiment.
In short, IMHO, go with the r7800 if going Netgear.
See michaelkenward did not say anything bad. ;)
