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skbz1999
Apr 25, 2017Tutor
ISP SuddenLink Won't Update Firmware C6300 AC1750
MODEL: C6300|AC1750 FIRMWARE: V1.02.21 HARDWARE: V3.0 WINDOWS 10 PC MACBOOK AIR OS X SIERRA AMAZON FIRE TV 2 AMAZON FIRE STICK ANDROID SMARTPHONE OS MARSHMALLOW 3 IPHONES HP OFFICEJET PRO 8...
Kirdro
Sep 22, 2017Star
Ok! Finally heard back from Suddenlink concerning my consumer complaint. Here's the gist of it: (This is what I posted on my FCC complaint document)
Suddenlink contacted me by phone at 3:57pm today from ###-###-####. The rep who called me stated that they reviewed my complaint at the corporate level. Their current decision is to refuse to update 3rd party hardware, even if the firmware is released to them. I informed the rep that they were knowingly supporting a gaping security hole on their network by refusing to push the firmware. I also requested that Suddenlink send me this statement in official letter form.
The complaint has been acknowledged by Suddenlink, but is still not resolved.
Waiting for feedback from the FCC now on how they interperet this response, if Suddenlink really has submitted this as a response (and lack of any response for a month and a week past their due date).
At this point, it's been officially acknowledged by Suddenlink that they won't update (note: "won't" not "can't" as originally described) 3rd party hardware, with the only exception being hardware that they themselves are leasing.
Once we get an official, federally recognized response from Suddenlink through the FCC, Netgear may have reason to begin releasing firmware to customers of ISP's that refuse to update, and have this response to point at for legal backing if there are problems. Again, I understand both Suddenlink and Netgears perspectives on the issue. Netgear doesn't want to get sued by ISP's if their updates break their infrastructure. ISP's don't want to spend the money to upgrade devices that aren't theirs, and don't want to risk the liability if a 3rd parties firmware update bricks a customers device. Both ISP's and Netgear have their current policies in place to protect themselves. Unfortunately, customers have no protection from the problems these policies cause. In Suddenlinks case, they place the customer at risk through failure to upgrade firmware, and then try and place all liability on that customer if Suddenlinks failure to upgrade the device leads to damages to Suddenlinks network.
What Netgear needs, is to be able to release their devices firmware, without fear of breaking Suddenlinks network (which is why we have government recognized industry standards!) and without being blamed for making a device no longer compatible with a customers ISP.
Customers need a right to upgrade their own, personal devices, especially if they are liable for damages caused by failure to do so.
TLDR, Suddenlink/Netgear won't update firmware because legal reasons. Customers get liability, risk, discomfort, and possible damages (and pay to have the experience).
rekamyenom
Mar 08, 2018Tutor
Shame on Netgear for not allowing us to update our own equipment that we own. I will NEVER buy Netgear EVER again. Just say no to Netgear...
With that said, I needed the Firmware update BADLY to solve an issue which is now solved (so far)....
I beat my head against the wall for weeks looking for a firmware update to my C6300 that I bought on Amazon. Netgear won't give it to you and my service provider (Wow) will not push it out. This is what I had to do to get it.
I took my router to my neighbors house who is on Spectrum (who is pushing the firmware updates), called tech support, told them I was my neighbor, told them I wanted to change my cable modem to my own (Netgear C6300), gave them the MAC Address, they turned it on, the upload and download lightning bolt looking arrows were flashing, that told me that the firmware was updating, to my neighbor out for Chinese food, came back, the lights were no longer flashing, inernet was up, checked my firmware version, and I am now on Hardware Version V3.0 Firmware Version V2.01.22. Called Spectrum back, told them I wanted to put my old router back on, gave them the MAC address of his original Router, and he was back up and running. Thank you Spectrum and Neighbor!
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!
- ryandhornMar 23, 2018Guide
Just for fun, thought I'd chime in with a different but equally frustrating issue with this whole Suddenlink firmware business.
I have a CM600 running 1.01.14 that was on Spectrum. It was purchased brand new a year and a half ago and always online with no issues. I moved an hour away where only Suddenlink is offered and the CM600 wouldn't connect to their network. They could see it but couldn't get it online. They told me to call Netgear (sound familiar?).
Netgear said that the CM600 firmware for Suddenlink needs to be 1.01.12. I asked Netgear to load it they said they couldn't. I asked how I can do it and they said I can't. We conference called into Suddenlink customer support and got "we can't touch customer's personal modems sir, it's encrypted data"(!!!).
Long story short, I had to buy a new $100 modem to get stock firmware. Bought the CM700 and out of the box it went on their network no problem. I pity everyone who switches from Spectrum to Suddenlink with their own personal modems...
- kjoshjMar 24, 2018Tutor
The CM700 is a PUMA 6 modem, I'd recommend doing extreme testing within the return window, as it's issues may not be fixable with a firmware update, that you may or may not ever get.
- kjoshjMar 24, 2018Tutor
No Cable Modem Manufacturer will update firmware, it is the sole responsiblility of the ISP these are part of the DOCSIS protocols.
Arris, Motorola and TP-Link will also not update firmware...
What you have is a crappy ISP and would be better off just renting a modem if a better ISP is not an option, it's sad but that's the way it is.