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Moreno279
Jun 11, 2022Aspirant
CAX80 keeps rebooting
For the past 3 days my CAX80 has been rebooting every 4 to 5 hours. I’ve tried connecting the power source directly to an outlet and that didn’t work. I did a factory reset and that also didn’t work. ...
FURRYe38
Jun 21, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Hard to determine if it's coming from the WAN or LAN side...Though would be good to try your suggestion to see if anything on the LAN side is popping this entry up or not.
tamanaco
Jun 21, 2022Apprentice
A typical ISP connected home router is called a NAT. It's a Network Address Translation device. The router itself has unique ISP assigned WAN IP address. With higher fees you can get a "dedicated" WAN IP address that it's also unique. All the data flow you send out from the LAN (Local Area Network) to the WAN (Internet) is actually sent to the router, which sends it out using its address. The returning data is sent to the LAN device using its MAC and IP Address the local device knows the LAN IP of the router and the port it needs to listen for the returning data. For LAN devices to work it's not necessary that they know the WAN IP of the "typical" home router as it can be changed by the ISP at any point.
- kinghq1Jun 22, 2022Star
To make this easier, WAN v. LAN.
IF you have no idea on these than chances are you did not change anything 🙂
With that said a Modem just handles traffic. It is only responsible for moving the 0's and 1's. It doesn't translate anything, it doesn't tell the 0's and 1's were to go. The ROUTER routes the 0's and 1's. IT is the equipment response for sending stuff to your PC or Playstation or mobile device. It uses a unique address, the IP Address. Much as your house address is unique to you, your devices IP Address is unique to it. Unlike our house address, the IP Address CAN change, unless it is dedicated or you are behind a Router.
Now then, with regards to the DoS Land Attacks. When I log into my CAX80, the logs show:
The 192.168 addresses are called NAT, see description above. THESE are provided by the Router side, these are how Home Routers are typically setup, but they can be changed to anything. If you are curious to know more, you need to look up NAT or IP Address convections to learn more. As for the others that show 73.65., this is the starting address assigned to Xfinity by the Global IP Address commission. And when I look at the Modem IP Address it is the same as the Source under the DoS Land Attack. IF you see the same then it is coming from WITHIN, if this is showing different then chances are it is coming from outside. You can use any IP Address lookup tool to see the Source address and who it is assigned to.
- FURRYe38Jun 22, 2022Guru - Experienced User
So I see, these are coming suppossedly from the WAN side. Target is 255.255.255.255 oddly.
- jffwarner0Jun 25, 2022Guide
In my case, the "source IP" is different from my Modem's IP and is the IP of my ISP (COX Internet). I've spent all week working with them on this and they're unsure what's going on. I've done full resets of the CAX80 (I've tried updating manually from files and from the NG server), COX came out and checked every cable and line and had no issues they could find, and COX has stated they're not seeing anything abnormal on their end.
It is worth noting that the reboots have stopped for me, my current uptime is now at 6 days, so some improvement. and I can now set up my reboots schedule again. Though I'm still getting those LAND attacks. The last 2 notices in the log had 25 reported 20 minutes before this write-up, and I had another one pop up while I was in the midst of writing this.
As additional troubleshooting, I've disconnected every single device from my network and still had these LAND attacks appear (disconnected everything but my wired PC, verified nothing was connected except the wired PC, unhooked wired PC, left house, came home hours later to find dozens of LAND attacks when nothing was connected to the network), so it's not any devices in my network causing it.
- OmnitronJun 25, 2022GuideI think it’s fair to assume that Netgear fixed the reboot issues. I suspect they were just pushing the OTA over and over because of a bug in firmware version detection.
For the LAND attacks: they’re still happening every 10/20/40 minutes since 2.1.3.7, and happen on multiple devices (Orbi, CAX80, …) and multiple ISPs (Xfinity, Cox, …), so we’ll likely need a new firmware version for those. But I don’t think we should be discussing that issue here, maybe the following thread would be more appropriate?
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Cable-Modems-Routers/DoS-attack-LAND-Attack-SPT-2190-DPT-2190/m-p/2227921#M37871 - FURRYe38Jun 25, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Yes if the reboots have stopped. Great to hear and know.
For any other stuff please follow in the more appropriate post threads so we get all information inlcuded there.
Thank you.