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solidsolutions
May 27, 2018Aspirant
Installing an entirely new home network and need a review of my idea
Our street is getting wired cable from a major provider so I want to upgrade from DSL to cable internet which would be a big speed upgrade. We have a typical Florida single level mid-sized concrete ...
solidsolutions
May 28, 2018Aspirant
After 50 years (not a typo) in computers I find it helpful to provide a good overview of the situation. Hence items such as copper wire, concrete blocks, two buildings and the like. I could reuse my 10 year old equipment but I think modern day threats need modern day solutions. As an additional point I typically never designed or installed business networks that had all of the equipment from one manufacturer to reduce the probability of infiltration due to "hackers" finding a vulnerability that would be present in all of the equipment from the same company.
Back to the initial subject. I have no experience with PowerLine and am concerned based the posts of others that the distances and the multiple circuit breakers might cause a problem. I'm also looking for a general critique of my design.
As we say in Florida: later alligator.
michaelkenward
May 28, 2018Guru - Experienced User
solidsolutions wrote:
After 50 years (not a typo) in computers ...
Me too. Coding in Fortran.
solidsolutions wrote:
I have no experience with PowerLine and am concerned based the posts of others that the distances and the multiple circuit breakers might cause a problem.
Had your first message stuck to that simple question, we would all have been better prepared to cut to the chase.
The distances you mention "120 feet" are not abnormal for Powerline but may be on the edge. It all depends on the local wiring. Is that straight line or the length of the wires?
Talk of "two different breakers" is kind of vague. Are they on the same mains circuit, feeding off one feed from the power company? Do you expect Powerline to leap both "breakers"?
I have used Powerline to bridge breakers. It works but there is a speed drop. Then again, the internet speeds you are talking about, 25 Mbps, are far slower than the PLW1010 can handle.
I haven't tried Powerline on a slow internet link and don't know if the speed hit would clobber the internet speeds rather than local speeds. I have 75 Mbps and can lose a half of that over the breakers, although this is using a truly complicated mix of Powerline, access points and wifi extenders. (I get to play with all manner of toys.)
You mention the PLW1010, which is a wifi plug. The only reference I can see to wifi in your first messages talks about an unnamed "streaming TV box". If that has wired LAN, I'd avoid using wifi. I use Powerline for anything that can do wired LAN, smart BluRay player, internet radio.
(Good luck getting all that to work with 25 Mbps internet.)
Again, picking through those piles of confusing detail, I see mention of "another Netgear PLW1010-100NAS with the “slave” in my office". Does that mean you plan to two separate networks based on Netgear PLW1010s?
Heaven only knows what you mean by this bit:
they will be new which hopefully means better firmware
What has firmware got to do with anything?
Forget about firmware. You need newer hardware, with better wifi performance, higher speeds and longer range, among other things.
- solidsolutionsMay 29, 2018Aspirant
I'll try to do a summary tht might be easier to understand.
Comcast 25Mbps (for more $$$ can get a higher speed) internet to Arris cable modem
Arris cable modem to Netgear wireless router using PLW1010-100NAS
(total copper wire distance is about 120 feet with different breakers - I haven't tested yet to see which side of the panel they are on)
Netgear wireless router ethernet to Apple TV 4K
Netgear wireless router ethernet to Raspberry Pi which uses the TV for its monitor
Netgear wireless turned on for all of our portable devices to use
Netgear wireless connected to a second PLW1010-100NAS terminated in garage
(total copper wire distance estimated to be 160 feet and different breakers)
The end point will then connect mostly via ethernet cable to the multiple devices in the garage
The goal is to have one seamless network for access in the house, garage, lanai and patio that is faster, more secure and has less glitches than even what I have now. By getting rid of the DD-WRT 2 router repeater bridge I will hopefully have faster speed and less complaints from the CEO.
FORTRAN ROCKS...
- michaelkenwardMay 29, 2018Guru - Experienced User
solidsolutions wrote:
Arris cable modem to Netgear wireless router using PLW1010-100NAS(total copper wire distance is about 120 feet with different breakers - I haven't tested yet to see which side of the panel they are on)
I would anticipate serious problems with that link.
I'm not even sure that Powerline will work from modem to router. It is always described, and presented, as a router to device link.
It might work to have a direct modem-to-router link, and then to feed a network off that with switches and access points. I have done things like that, but that is where I see speed hits.