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FredReed
Feb 24, 2017Aspirant
Build a LAN with a WNDR3400v2
I'm trying to make a wifi LAN with 4 devices for sharing. I don't need full time internet as it's a metered connection and I want to keep data usage down to a minimum. (It seems I need the internet connection for updating/setup for the router) All I have for internet connection is wireless hotspot on my S4.
"EVERYONE" claims I need "fulltime" internet or WAN to operate a LAN. I've seen C/NET articles that state LAN networks can be set up WITHOUT internet connection. C/NET is a well respected website with a wealth of good information about computer technology. What I can't find is HOW to set up the LAN I want.
The devices I want to share with are: HP TouchSmart IQ500 series desktop w/W10
Asus Eee PC 1005PEB netbook w/W7 Starter
Polaroid M10 2-1 tablet w/Marshmallow
Galaxy SPH1337 S4 smartphone w/KitKat 4.4.2
It's a conundrum and challenge for me and would love for a knowledgeable tech person to help me figure this out. I'm willing to email off here and will post results to this if it's solved. I admit, it's bigger than the subject line.
OH, how do I change my email address here? Nothing listed in my profile or settings.
FredReed wrote:
I forgot to mention this, I read about and watched a demonstration on "Pixiedust".
I'm not sure if it was a "brute force" attack over the internet or over the wifi signal.
Do you know? I'm sure there are newer ones since then too.
These attacks are to break into wifi. Your router is not vulnerable to Pixie Dust. I haven't seen anything specific on WPS brute force attacks. But if you simply disable WPS on your router, you won't be vulnerable to this whole class of attacks.
Passphrases (and pins) can always be attacked by brute-force (which amounts to trying all possible passphrases). There are ways to slow these attacks down - for instance, if the router is slow to respond after a couple of failed connection attempts, then the brute-force attack will take a lot longer. Even a small delay is enough to make these attacks useless (because there are so many passphrases to try).
If you are worried about this particular threat, you can reduce the risk by turning your router's wifi off when you aren't using it, and by changing the passphrase from time to time. In general, longer passphrases will be harder to discover by brute force guessing.
57 Replies
- William10aMaster
Depending on how big of area you want to cover your own smart phone provider may hold the answer a personal hotspot network with a mobile hotspot box tied to your phone's account and with a data usage counter on the unit netgear has a few since I do not know your phone service provider is try seeing if they are listed or check with your provider may be the best answer for you.
- FredReedAspirant
Thanks William10a,
I am downloading updates for my Polaroid M10 on wifi @ Walmart right now. Any of my portable devices I can do that. My desktop...
NOT so easy, no internet at my apartment. As for a hotspot at home, I can use the S4 "sparingly" as I'm limited to 6Gs on a family plan.
The plan is my sister's. Adding devices to it is not up to me so the S4 has to do for now. The S4 has a data usage counter and as it's an
AT&T dedicated smartphone, the counter is very accurate. (I do use the S4 for work too, email and Google maps. More bang for my AT&T buck)
I purchased a "heavy duty" power inverter for when I need my security service provider to update and clean my desktop. It will look weird sitting at a public wifi with a desktop updating but it's the only way I can afford to get around the large cost of in home internet.
I don't have the knowledge to access the internet on my own wihout paying someone as a "gatekeeper"! I wish we ALL could!
The project I am investigating is how to set up a LAN at home using my router as the "access point" to be able to "share" my files between my devices at home. I use wifi direct to print from my S4 but that only connects two devices for a short moment.
- William10aMaster
A wire stranger, an usb wifi adaptor and a usb extension cable equals a directional antenna and wifi with a good range works great in the country just like a satellite dish focusing the wifi signal into point. Easy to video's on how to make on youtube. You could set old computer to receive wifi via a usb wifi adapter or wifi card and link the wndr 3400v2 router via lan card to the computer as a access point the computer would have assign the ip addresses. may be there is a easyer way but your phone would talk the computer and the computer would access the other devices if all works right. Just a different way of tring to make your idea work.
- William10aMaster
As the post above saids the wndr3400 can not do any of functions the way you want but there is away to turn a wndr3400 into a wireless repeater I have never tried the setting my back up router by the way it is a wndr3400v1 that runs dd-wrt firmware that's the way I get it back and decided to leave that way it works for now.
If you would like information about the firmware version I will post it for you but no guarantees if you try to reflash your router with dd-wrt you may have a brick.
- ElaineMNETGEAR Employee Retired
Welcome to the community, FredReed
The WNDR3400v2 cannot be used to bridge the Internet access to the rest of the devices you have.
You will need a physical modem to be connected to its WAN/Internet port.
What you're looking for is a router that has a bridge functionality and has a wireless client association.
Or you may want to enable the Tethering option on your S4.
- FredReedAspirant
Thanks Elaine,
It's true, the bridge comes through a "modem' not the router and I can "tether" to my desktop through the S4.
The router is my "access point" through which my other devices can "share" with each other (but not the internet) after WPS.
That"s how I currently understand how it works. I'm looking for a LAN only but to be able to tether to my desktop when needed through the S4. Therein is my internet only "when I need it". My desktop is the only devce that has no internet access (no service at my apartment). The three others have wifi and are portable.
Do you see issues with my plans for a LAN using the router as an access point?