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Ascaris5
Aspirant
Nov 16, 2015
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WNDR3700v1 wireless throughput half of DIR-825

Hi,

 

First, am I remembering correctly when I think there used to be a dedicated subforum for the 3700?  If it is here, I don't see it.  It's been years, though; I have had this router a long time, as I bought this v1 when that was all there was.

 

I am connecting to the 3700 with an equally old laptop, which has an Intel 4965agn wireless card.  My main PC (much more current) is attached via ethernet cable, and I have taken some spare parts and put together another PC to act as a NAS for the purposes of backing up the laptop and the main PC, also connected with an ethernet cable.

 

The sorta-NAS works very well with the wired connection, and wired throughput exceeds 100MB/sec copying a large file as reported by Windows, so no complaints there.  Unfortunately, though, I have run into issues with the laptop when connected wirelessly.  As both the laptop and the router are capable of operating in the A band, I use that exclusively to avoid interference with the ten or so APs my neighbors have in use in the G band.  I have the entire A band to myself!

 

When the laptop connects to the 3700, it reports 300 mbps as the connection speed (though it fluctuates a lot).  The router is about 12 feet from the laptop, with no walls in between, and signal strength is usually 5 of 5 bars, though it sometimes shows 4.  The actual speed copying a large file from the laptop to the sorta-NAS wirelessly ranges from 6 to 8 MBps.

 

While I was troubleshooting an intermittent connectivity issue with the laptop and its 4965agn to the 3700 (which seemed exactly like the "Sporadic Wireless Disconnects Caused by Data Reordering Issue" as reported by Intel with their wireless drivers [five years after the last driver for the 4965 was released, so I don't know if it really is the same issue, but the symptoms AND the workaround of turning off N mode both apply]), I read that the issue was happening for sure with Netgear routers/APs, but not some others. I know it's not all in the router, as when the disconnects come, rebooting the router won't bring the connection back, but rebooting the laptop will.

 

I dug out my old D-Link DIR-825 and tried it.

 

I was surprised to find that with the same reported connect speed of 300mbps (with the same fluctuations), I was getting actual file copy speeds of exactly double what I had gotten on the 3700-- 12 to 16 MBps.

 

Both routers use the same encryption (AES) and the same 64-bit string of hex characters as a key, so if anything, the much slower D-Link should be lagging behind, but it's not.  Not only that, but the wireless connectivity issue has not happened with the D-Link (it may at some point, as that is the nature of intermittent issues, but it has been a long time on the D-Link).

 

The 3700 is a much faster device, and all of the tests of the 3700 vs the DIR-825 (when both were new and in their first revisions) mention that the 3700 outperforms the D-Link by a large margin, but that is certainly not what I am seeing now. 

 

I am using the latest official firmware for the 3700 (1.0.16.98).

 

Any ideas on what I can do to get the 3700 up to speed?  I know there used to be a lot of messages about the poor quality of the firmware for the 3700v1... but like so many manufacturers, Netgear seems to have forgotten about older products that are still quite usable (and in this case, still being sold, even if they are in the fifth or higher revision).  Should I be investigating alternative firmwares?

 

Thanks!

 

10 Replies

  • Looks like it's starting to fail.

    3rd party firmware may help if after reloading the latest firmware didn't fix it. 

    • Ascaris5's avatar
      Ascaris5
      Aspirant

      I've only had one router fail before (although I currently own 5), and it just stopped working one day-- no lights, no anything.  Is this the usual way they fail if they don't just suddenly die?

       

      I flashed the WNDR3700 to DD-WRT, and the wireless speed was even lower than with the stock firmware (about 3 MB/s).  I messed with the settings all I could, but I could not get it going any faster.  With that in mind, I went back to the stock firmware using the router's recovery mode, and it worked... but the speed was still 3MB/sec.

       

      It does look like its giving all it's got.  Even with excellent signal strength and 300mbps connect speed, it's slow.  It's even slower in the b/g band, which probably has something to do with all of the other APs using that band around here.

       

      The D-Link is actually working pretty well so far.  I don't remember why I switched from it to the 3700; I know the 3700's cpu is about twice as fast, but I can't remember what I was doing (if anything) where that mattered.  Or maybe it was unreliable... I don't remember. I've been using the Netgear for a long time!

       

      I do find the onboard setup utility to be needlessly confusing compared to the Netgear version, and the constant logging me out while I am changing settings (and not accepting the changes as a result) is infuriating... but it is much faster than the 3700 on wireless and just as fast on gigabit wired.

      • doraemon's avatar
        doraemon
        Prodigy

        Then it's definitely a hardware failure.