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djahn28
Feb 09, 2017Aspirant
Nighthawk X10 10gb connection
hello ! i was wondering if i run a SFP+ cable from my computer to the nighthawk x10 will i be able to access the internet though it? as well as access my usb drive? any help would be great !!!! than...
- Feb 10, 2017
djahn28 wrote:
I don't plan to nor am I trying to get 10 gigabytes over the internet I just want to be able to have the best connection to my USB storage device as well as have a connection to the internet. When I'm transferring 10 or 12 movies from my main Drive to my USB external drive that's connected via USB 3.0 I'm only getting about 50 or 60 megabytes per second transfer rate from my main computer to the drive with the 10 gigabit connection I should be able to maximize the USB 3.0 skip abilities with the way my way to set up and guess between 120 and 240 megabytes per second give or take.FWIW, smallnetbuilder.com was only able to get 103.7 megabytes per second out of the USB 3.0 port (link). Even a Gigabit port can handle that.
William10a
Feb 13, 2017Master
I see optics as possible answer to the power requirements an optic can 10 to 40 giga speeds without any problems they have been used by electronics in the for years on flat sreen tv's,computers some times have a optic port and other electronics in use today to interconnect different devices as a replacement to copper cat 6 and cat 7 cable. I believe that it is possible for netgear to make a router/modem devicewith a phone over the internet that links by a optic cable to replace the isp units with out a ont.
schumaku
Feb 13, 2017Guru - Experienced User
William10a wrote:I see optics as possible answer to the power requirements an optic can 10 to 40 giga speeds without any problems they have been used by electronics in the for years on flat sreen tv's,computers some times have a optic port and other electronics in use today to interconnect different devices as a replacement to copper cat 6 and cat 7 cable.
With US$ 300 still asked by the brand vendors per 10GBase-SR SFP+ Fiber Transceiver Module 850nm MM LC w/DDM for up to 300 m Multimode fibre (I known "non-names" are sold around 100 US$ locally down to less than 20 US$ direct from mainland China), compareable high installation costs (an average IT infrastructure person, electrician and even home worker can install CAT7+ wiring with reasonable to good quality - but not fibre) as there is more than just deloying patch cables, ... I have my serious doubts.
William10a wrote:... I believe that it is possible for netgear to make a router/modem devicewith a phone over the internet that links by a optic cable to replace the isp units with out a ont.
Not many FTTH ISP will allow and support 3rd party CPE, and not one I know when it comes to tripple-play solutions - for compatibility, for manageability, for operational reasons. Last but not least, the real CPE market is run on basic specs, and finally the price per 1000 units - not convined 10 (or 40) GbE technology will be within the acceptable price range for ISP CPE.
- William10aFeb 13, 2017Master
Fiber is very costly today but more isp's are starting to roll fiber out the need supporting layout the infrastructure this will help lower the cost and the max speed may only be 5 or 15 giga depending on what you are paying for I see it may be taking hold in years not today as replacement for the copper cable it has taken years for copper to bes to replaced by fiber to people's homes which going on today so it will take time.
- schumakuFeb 13, 2017Guru - Experienced User
We should not mix Internet and 1/10/whatever GbE LAN Ethernet capabilities here. There is no need for a high perfromance Internet connection to operate a fast LAN.
- StephenBFeb 13, 2017Guru - Experienced User
I think a lot will depend on how much speed home users will want. Gigabit ISP rates are still just rolling out, and I think most users would be happy with gigabit wifi that matched their ISP speeds.
- schumakuFeb 13, 2017Guru - Experienced User
The combined effective possible speed rates of the 2.4 and the MU-MIMO on the X10 WiFi does already exceed a GbE Internet connection. It's irreal to expect full 1 GbE performance on a 1 Gb/s (or effective 1.25 Gb/s to combine Internet, Unicast-/Multicast-combined TV, and telephony) FTTH connctions deployed today - leaving the hevaily delivery network backed services, the biggest amount of Web Servers is still operated on (shared) 1 GbE networks delivering much slower.
There are ample of resons to operate faster than 1 GbE locally, not only when operating NAS storage. Already a combined USB stroage access, some Plex streaming, and Internet access handled by a X10 can (on the LAN side) easily exceed a sinlge GbE link capability. Netgear does understand these requirements, and has added a pair of 802.3ad/LACP GbE trunk, and an SFP+ port with the X10.
For years, many of us operated Internet on thin to weak DSL connecitons, or DOCSIS 1 and 2 based cable TV networks earlier days to Fast Ethernet LAN, later with GbE LAN - barely exceeded some 50/20 or 50/25 Mb/s on good VDSL2. Can't understand why you guys link local LAN bandwith requirements with the Internet access bandwidth. To many marketing and performance geeks here I guess.
- William10aFeb 13, 2017Master
You could cat6 or cat7 lan cables that would handle the faster 10gb How ver the cat 5 hits its limit at 1 gb I guess a router could have 10gb lan ports if the orther end of the cable had a 10gb port also I see speed's lower then the 10gb unless really want it.
- schumakuFeb 13, 2017Guru - Experienced User
Once for the records - Ethernet GBASE-T, 2.5GBASE-T, 5GBASE-T, 10GBASE-T and wiring:
- CAT5 allows 1 Gbit/s up to* 100 meters
- CAT5E allows 1 or 2.5 Gbit/s up to* 100 meters, resp. 5 Gbit/s up to" 100m of Cat 5e "on defined use cases and deployment configurations"
- CAT6 allows 1 or 2.5 or 5 Gbit/s up to* 100 meters or 10 Gbit/s up to 55 meters with a 500 MHz validation
- CAT6E allows 1 or 2.5 or 5 or 10 Gbit/s up to* 100 meters
- CAT7 does it all, and will be able to handle more, up to 600 MHz, for future standards
- CAT7A does it all, and will be able to handle more, up to 1000 MHz, for future standards
*some state "at least to"
There is no fall-back to a lower speed on sub-standard quality cabling, links will start to develop issues of the cabling is not good enough.One minor exception is that a 10 GbE might fall back to 1 GbE if one or both additional pairs requied are broken.
Note: The X10 does not have a 10GBASE-T port, it comes with a 10 GbE capable SFP+ slot.Don't remember having seen any of these in the specs: No idea if it's supposed to work with SFP (1 GbE) or 2.5 and 5 GbE SFP+ modules - usually, SFP+ slots are made for 10 GbE or for 2.5/5/10 GbE. It might be able to power a SFP+ 10GBASE-T on up to 30 meters on a CAT6A or better infrastructure.
Now I think a mod should close this topic - we're ways of the subject now. - StephenBFeb 14, 2017Guru - Experienced User
schumaku wrote:
Can't understand why you guys link local LAN bandwith requirements with the Internet access bandwidth.
I do understand those are separate. As a ReadyNAS owner I certainly want my local LAN bandwidth to exceed my internet access speed.
But for most people I know, they are increasingly tied. They use (or are shiting towards) internet streaming, internet gaming, cloud storage and cloud backup. All that's left on the home network itself is printing. The only requirement they have for the local lan bandwidth is that it not be a bottleneck for their internet access speed.