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Tilghman's avatar
Oct 27, 2018
Solved

QoS Speedtest Failure on R9000 X10

First time here.  Be patient. 

 

Firmware V1.0.4.12

 

I have a problem that seems unresolvable with this new router. 3 hours of troubleshooting with tech support, couldn't arrive at a solution.

Modem maker Motorola (Arris 6141) tells me one thing.  My own modem, if it gets a Firware update, it'd be from the ISP.  My ISP (sizable regional company) came out to the house but didn't provide any insights and suggested just ignore that router's  QoS feature! "You really don't need it".  And that after they provison the modem to register it on their network, they do nothing more with it other than assigning an IP address lease.  That they certainly wouldn't push an update to a modem not their own. Only Motorola would do that. Motorola said the ISP does.

 

I never had a problem with my durabale R7000 router. Ask it to "Let Speedtest detect my Internet bandwidth (recommended)" and get a Download and Upload speed which is used by QoS to do it's thing.

 

On the R9000 it always fails. Dozens of times, computer hard connected Cat5E to the router. Or WIFI. Different computers, Windows 10, Imac, Linux Mint, different browser. Factory resets. Always the same result. Even on a second R9000 router! Could two new routers have the exact same problem? 

 

"The Speedtest fails to detect the bandwidth, please check your Internet connection or try again later".  Consistently about a minute wait until this faiure message.

 

Either both routers have problems ( I don't see others on here with this problem) or I would assume either the year old Arris cablemodem or the ISP?

 

Speedtests outside of routerlogin work. Just that when logged in to the QoS menu, that feature fails to measure the bandwidth. 

 

I can "I want to define my Internet bandwidth" and plug in numbers. Still the recommeded way to measure it DL and UL fails.

 

Any ideas? 

Thanks

 

 

 

  • :Fix this, Netgear!

     

    Thanks schumaku  Perhaps I should have just jumped in here from the start?

    I'll continue to use the manual entry method with QoS. Until....

     

    It started with a quick call to tech support with a case number, then the grueling investigation and RMA. We did go back to the previous Firmware version, with no success too.

     

    And odd situation occurred with the first few questions Netgear installation setup walks you through as it identifies the router connection to the Internet. It seemed to identify either another router or gateway. None that I'm aware of. Just the Arris modem and the greater ISP service out to the Internet. I wondered if the ISP had something the setup recognized? Something "out there"? It kept asking how I want to handle that device? I guess positively choosing the R9000 as a "router" of choice, after floundering around clicking menu options.

     

    The replacement R9000 arrived. Within 10 minutes of setup, the very same odd identification of seemingly something else already in the network, as well as the QoS failure result. Could some residue leftover from the R7000 been the issue? I'm always cleaning out browser cookies. Just wondering, wondering what setup saw? I mentioned this to tech support first time around. Of course they asked if I also had a router/modem combo or just a modem? Just the latter

     

     

    I called tech support again for the second R9000 to give them feedback after calling the cable company out. The tests done outside and inside the house were fine. 50 down, 10 up has been adequate for our networked house (TIVO, Arlo cameras, several networked computers). His recommendation was live without Qos. I don't believe I'll get a bill. He did try to upsell me on WIFI repeaters for better connectivity. That's not my problem.

     

    The feedback call to Netgear support had them wanting to start a troubleshooting process again. No way! I'll live with it. "Just know both R9000s have the same problem". 

     

    I'll treat this as solved. Cheers

     

     

     

     

     

6 Replies

  • schumaku's avatar
    schumaku
    Guru - Experienced User

    In the first iteration, this looks to me like some URL, API, API key, or license key they use with speedtest.net are out of service. The same happens here on a (newer, unreleased, test) firmware here on my R9000, too.

     

    Anyway, if you have a "low bandwidth" Internet connection, and insist in using the QoS system, the best alternate approach is to input the nominal bandwidth from your ISP contract for the up- and downstream accordingly.

    Can't see why this requires a router replacement or hours on the support line (gee, this sows the quality of the support btw.). Evaluating and writing this post takes me about a minute or so. ChristineT - what's up with your support people?

     

    Ok, here for Alex in a second iteration, and spending one minute more enabling the debug telnet access, and peeking around does show this:

     

    root@R9000:/# cat /tmp/ookla_speedtest_result
    serverid: 3821
    isp: Swisscom
    latency: 8
    download: 995362
    upload: 991085

     

    New conclusion - somehow the router firmware does fail to read the result. Ohdear ohdear Netgear.....  Altsai what's the matter here?

     



    Fix this, Netgear!

    PS. Very patient with Tilghman, welcome to the Netgear Community by the way. Much less patience with Netgear.

    • Tilghman's avatar
      Tilghman
      Tutor

      :Fix this, Netgear!

       

      Thanks schumaku  Perhaps I should have just jumped in here from the start?

      I'll continue to use the manual entry method with QoS. Until....

       

      It started with a quick call to tech support with a case number, then the grueling investigation and RMA. We did go back to the previous Firmware version, with no success too.

       

      And odd situation occurred with the first few questions Netgear installation setup walks you through as it identifies the router connection to the Internet. It seemed to identify either another router or gateway. None that I'm aware of. Just the Arris modem and the greater ISP service out to the Internet. I wondered if the ISP had something the setup recognized? Something "out there"? It kept asking how I want to handle that device? I guess positively choosing the R9000 as a "router" of choice, after floundering around clicking menu options.

       

      The replacement R9000 arrived. Within 10 minutes of setup, the very same odd identification of seemingly something else already in the network, as well as the QoS failure result. Could some residue leftover from the R7000 been the issue? I'm always cleaning out browser cookies. Just wondering, wondering what setup saw? I mentioned this to tech support first time around. Of course they asked if I also had a router/modem combo or just a modem? Just the latter

       

       

      I called tech support again for the second R9000 to give them feedback after calling the cable company out. The tests done outside and inside the house were fine. 50 down, 10 up has been adequate for our networked house (TIVO, Arlo cameras, several networked computers). His recommendation was live without Qos. I don't believe I'll get a bill. He did try to upsell me on WIFI repeaters for better connectivity. That's not my problem.

       

      The feedback call to Netgear support had them wanting to start a troubleshooting process again. No way! I'll live with it. "Just know both R9000s have the same problem". 

       

      I'll treat this as solved. Cheers

       

       

       

       

       

      • schumaku's avatar
        schumaku
        Guru - Experienced User

        Great, thank you Tilghman for the bug discovery - even if not fully sorted yet!