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R8000P not producing gigabit wifi speeds
Hi, im new here but I have looked on here for a while for the answer to my quesiton and couldnt find it. Ill try to fill everyone in as best I can on my situation so please pardon the long explanation. Im trying to cover most questions asked in other threads to save everyone the time haha.
I just received a new gigabit fibre line with gigabit service (940up/940down). I have my ISP modem/router (ONT) bridged with wifi off. I have my Nighthawk connected to LAN1 (of the modem) via a CAT6 ethernet cable and plugged into the WAN port of the nighthawk. I have all 3 bands (2.4,5,5) on as well as two bands of the guest network on (2.4,5). I need this guest network as my tenants use it and I do not want to share my LAN with them. Who knows how nosey they are or what viruses they have.
I have all settings like QoS, website blocking, readyshare, etc off so that it does not rob cpu power to run those (I heard that could slow it down on one thread and i dont need them so i turned it off). The internet space where im at is not very polluted. I think we pick up maybe 3-4 other networks. We are in a detached home so we dont have a million networks around us like an apartment complex. I am running the most up to date firmware (V1.4.1.68_1.3.28) for today.
The issue:
When i connect my desktop to the modem via ethernet and run a speed test (speedtest.net and fast.com) I get 940ish up and down like I should so I know my ISP is providing me with the speed I pay for. When I then connect it back to the nighthawk and run a speedtest in the nighthawk app on my phone or in the browser settings (under QoS), I get 740up/down. Then, when I connect to either of the 5G networks via my phone, laptop, desktop and am standing right beside it, I only get max 450up/down. It is consistent between all of those devices. I also tried running simultanious speedtests with each device on different 5g bands and it just splits that 450ish between the two devices. Considering this router boasts 4gbps (1625mpbs per 5g band,etc) I should be able to get gigabit speeds on this router should I not? Im trying to figure out what I may have set wrong or if maybe the guest network (because its a virtual network) could be slowing down speeds. Does anyone have any ideas why I am not receiving closer to the 940up and down like it is getting via ethernet? (I do know that ethernet is always the best option but im not able to use it in this situation and this router should in theory be able to handle gigabit speeds wirelessly).
Thanks for reading and any help in advance!!!
the R8000P has a 3x3 antenna setup for both 5ghz bands and 2.4ghz. It also has mu-mimo (multiple input, mulitple output). Meaning it can talk to more than 1 device at once if those devices support mu-mimo. And most wireless devices are only 1x1 or 2x2 devices.
so its not a simple answer. Can it do more over the 5ghz if using more than 1 device? potentially.
but it usually doesn't need to. And it half the point of triband was having the ability to seperate out your high bandwidth device.
The reason I say it doesn't usually need to is most services don't need 400mbps. For example, 4k streaming is only 25-40mbps needed. So even if its buffering, its not going to get anywhere close to the 400mbps available.
I've ran triband and dual band flagship routers. with the triband having 2x 5ghz bands (and not being to far away) I haven't ran into bandwidth issues. And I've tested using multiple 4k streamers and gaming machines at a time.
I'd recommend reading one more article, its a review from smallnetbuilder on the r8000P. its a well written article
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dont' test using the nighthawk or qos app. They rarely pick the best server to hit full speeds.
also, you won't hit gigabit speeds over wireless.
to find out more why you won't hit gigabit speeds over wireless, read here:
Understand Wi-Fi 4/5/6/6E (802.11 n/ac/ax) (duckware.com)
it is highly educational and helps understand wireless speeds/issues.
WhiskeyJack wrote:
when I connect to either of the 5G networks via my phone, laptop, desktop and am standing right beside it, I only get max 450up/down.
What do these devices get when you use other wifi sources?
What is the highest reported speeds that these devices get anywhere? (Ignore any marketing hype on the boxes.)
Those speeds look like the best that those wifi clients are likely to achieve.
Read the link that plemans provided. Then you can relax and stop expecting the impossible.
- Ok, i will take a look at that article. There's alot to digest but I will work through it. Looks very well written. Thanks for the replies!
One more question (im sure this is probably answered in the article but for clarity sake I'm going to ask here):
- Since my client devices are limited to let's say 400mbps on 5g, would the entire 5g band be limited to that? As in if I have two devices on one of the 5g bands and downloading at max speeds, would I see 2x400mbps or would it split that to 2x200mbps? What about if the two devices are on separate 5g bands? Would this also be split with the guest network that's virtually hosted on these 5g bands?
Thanks again for the replies!the R8000P has a 3x3 antenna setup for both 5ghz bands and 2.4ghz. It also has mu-mimo (multiple input, mulitple output). Meaning it can talk to more than 1 device at once if those devices support mu-mimo. And most wireless devices are only 1x1 or 2x2 devices.
so its not a simple answer. Can it do more over the 5ghz if using more than 1 device? potentially.
but it usually doesn't need to. And it half the point of triband was having the ability to seperate out your high bandwidth device.
The reason I say it doesn't usually need to is most services don't need 400mbps. For example, 4k streaming is only 25-40mbps needed. So even if its buffering, its not going to get anywhere close to the 400mbps available.
I've ran triband and dual band flagship routers. with the triband having 2x 5ghz bands (and not being to far away) I haven't ran into bandwidth issues. And I've tested using multiple 4k streamers and gaming machines at a time.
I'd recommend reading one more article, its a review from smallnetbuilder on the r8000P. its a well written article
