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vandermerwe
Oct 02, 2016Master
Logitech Media Server by Super-Poisson not compatible with 6.6.0
In addition to the NasTools version the Super-Poisson version 1.0.6 does not work after upgrading to 6.6.0.
nsne
Dec 12, 2016Virtuoso
ottovonkopp, does your two-step method result in the app icon appearing on the "Installed Apps" page?
EDIT: I've also experienced problems with LMS filling my root volume unless the "squeezebox server" folder (with its SQL database) is symlinked onto to data volume. Does 1.0.9 avoid this issue?
HWStigter
Dec 19, 2016Apprentice
Since ottovonkopp didn't react: It will do so.
The problem you describe with LMS filling your root volume I have never seen. Was that on a readynas platform?
Normally the LMS (nightly) installs on /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/ where the .db is in /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache.
Mine is about 223 MB. How big is yours?
Sincerely,
Rik
- nsneDec 19, 2016Virtuoso
Mine's 625MB.
And, yes, this is an issue. When it happened to me—exactly one year ago, interestingly enough—a tech had to remote in and symlink the "squeezeboxserver" folder to the /data volume. I might do that now just to be on the safe side.
Apps like Plex and LMS should automatically default to storing their databases to something like an "Apps" folder on the /data volume to prevent root volumes from silently filling and causing issues.
- StephenBDec 19, 2016Guru - Experienced User
nsne wrote:
Apps like Plex and LMS should automatically default to storing their databases to something like an "Apps" folder on the /data volume to prevent root volumes from silently filling and causing issues.
They should install to /apps (which is another mount point for /data/.apps) If you install things manually, you should do the same (or create symlinks on the OS partition to the data partition).
It is risky to install software onto the OS partition, especially if the software includes databases.
- nsneDec 19, 2016Virtuoso
StephenB wrote:They should install to /apps (which is another mount point for /data/.apps) If you install things manually, you should do the same (or create symlinks on the OS partition to the data partition).
That is *not* the behavior for LMS, unfortunately. I think NAStools said that he'd created a version of LMS that avoided this issue, but S-P's implementation of LMS definitely puts the database in /var/lib. That has helped to fill my root volume to 40% after a factory reset.
So if I symlink the "squeezeboxserver" folder to /apps it won't take up any space on the root volume? And if so, what's the best way to create a symlink?
- HWStigterDec 20, 2016Apprentice
Actually: that isn't Super-Poussin's fault, it's the behaviour of the nightly installer. The LMS-plug-in just 'finds' the LMS-server and switches it on (or off) from the Apps-page in the webinterface.
On the whole I'd say that installing on /apps is a better idea, especially for those of us who have really large numbers of (media-)files, So what would (we) need to be done (do)?
- I noticed that NASTools updated his version at the beginning of november, but it still hasn't shown up on the 'installable apps' page in the webinterface. Why? This would be the easiest solution for most users.
- We could write an instruction on how to make a squeezeboxserver' dir in /apps and a symbolic link to that dir from /var/lib/squeezeboxserver with ln (for usage type in ln --help) and how to install the nightly-LMS and S-P's LMS-plug-in. That would/could/might be a bit complicated for some users.
But I'd say that 1. is definately the better optiion...:smileyhappy:
So could somebody (at Netgear, I presume) just give that version a test and put it in the 'downloadable apps'-page?
- nsneDec 20, 2016Virtuoso
I fully agree, HWStigter. Personally, though, I prefer S-P's version, because that's what I've been using for years and "trust". So it would be great if someone experienced could post the recommended code to create a functional symlink.
I'm guessing it would be "ln /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/ /apps/squeezeboxserver" but I'm not 100% sure. ln --help offers a lot of options that might or might not be necessary.
- HWStigterDec 20, 2016Apprentice
So do I. :smileyhappy:
Mostly because it gives me the opportunity to test the nightlies before I recommend them to others...
Would you like a 'hard' or a 'symbolic' link? In case of the latter add --symbolic to your command line.
- HWStigterDec 20, 2016Apprentice
Anyway: I decided to plunge in....
So do the following (for an existing installation):
- shutdown squeezeboxserver with the LMS-plug-in on the 'installed apps' page
- Run SSH and login as 'root'
- cd /var/lib (where your 'squeezeboxserver'-dir is)
- mv -v -t /apps/ /var/lib/squeezeboxserver (move the whole dir to /apps/)
- ln -s /apps/squeezeboxserver squeezeboxserver (create the symbolic link from /var/lib/ to /apps/squeezeboxserver)
- exit (SSH) and restart the service through the LMS-plug-in
That should do it, mine is running from that dir now and my root-volume (/ on /dev/md0) is now only 29% full instead of 57% before the move.
Good luck!
Rik
- HWStigterDec 21, 2016Apprentice
BTW I noticed today that NASTools Logitech Media Server NT is back online. Perhaps someone was listening? :smileyvery-happy:
- ABNLDec 21, 2016Guide
It's back indeed but I thought it was safer to install manually.
- HWStigterDec 21, 2016Apprentice
ABNLI think this version is OK, since in Apps by NASTools people (well: m-frank) report it functioning well.
It's less work for those who want to do things the easy way. The method ottovonkopp and me suggested is more complicated, but gives the advantage that you can always install the latest version (the 'nightly'). It's simply a matter of preference.
But I'm glad the NASTools version is again available on the web-interface because many people simpy prefer something that is easy to maintain.
Another advantage is, as we've learned from nsne- and StephenB's info, that this version installs itself on /apps (which is on the 'data' -volume) instead of on /var/lib (which is on 'root'). For some that may be important enough!
Sincerely,
Rik
- ottovonkoppJan 11, 2017Apprentice
Upgraded from 6.6.0 to 6.6.1 on my RN104 and RN202.
Both LMS and Plex works after upgrade.
Regards
Bernt
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