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Backup Schedule to other NAS drive
Hi, I was wondering if it is possible to setup an automatic backup schedule to another NAS drive on the network? I was playing with the settings, however cant get it to work. If it is possibl...
So found the solution. Dont ask me how or why, but it works now suddenly.
After many tries, this is what I found to be the correct format of entering the backup destination info when connecting to Synology Rsync service from a Readynas NV+ v2 running Radiator 5.
BACKUP DESTINATION
Type: remote
Name: remote: Rsync Server
Host: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Path: NetBackup
Login: (username of the account you created on the Synology for the rsync service)
Password: (password of the account you created on the Synology for the rsync service)
After clicking "Test Connection" this should give a Successful message.
When if saved this backup configuration, and ran it, I received an error message telling me that the account was disabled. I could not figure out why this message was shown as I had setup everything by default on the Synology. I did notice that one setting I had not enabled as it was descibed in my humble opinion to be not needed. This was the "Enable rsync account". I though it would be worth the try to enable it and click on the "Edit rsync Account" button. This opened up a window with rsync accounts which showed to be empty. I clicked on the "Add" button and selected the rsync account which I had already created for the Rsync service and entered its password again. After saving it, suddenly the Readynas Backup worked after running ir from the Readynas Backup page.
Making it complete; I have also screenshots available of the Synology Rsync service configuration that worked for me however, I can only upload one attachement but no zip. any ideas how to add the couple of screenshots I have?
Keep in mind, I created a dedicated user called "rsync" which would only be allowed access to the Rsync NetBackup share location with Read/Write.
Hope this helps others.
xbmcgotham wrote:
Your right, just a hld habbit of mine, changing standard port for safety. :-)
I have tried different paths, but no success. For example, if I use:
Host: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Path: NetBackup
I get the following error:
ERROR: The remote path must start with a module name not a /
rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1534) [sender=3.0.9]
Job: Full Backup
Protocol: rsync
Source: [Test]/
Destination: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/NetBackup
Backup failed. Tue Oct 8 11:26:58 GMT 2019.
Reason for failure:
Error encountered copying data from source path /Test/ ==> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/NetBackup due to unknown reason.
Note I re-ordered your reply a bit (I think you put the errors in the wrong place).
I don't own a v2 or a synology, so I can't help much on the syntax of the path. It's possible it needs to be NetBackup/ but it could also need the volume name of the synology. The ReadyNAS might also want a prepended /.
But it won't need the IP address in the path field - it will generate that from the hostname. So your second approach won't lead you anywhere useful.
Browse might help (worth a try anyway).
xbmcgotham wrote:
However, connecting to this path (smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/NetBackup) with login credentials on my Mac, works fine.
Of course you'd expect that, since NetBackup is a share. But rsync is a totally different service.
So found the solution. Dont ask me how or why, but it works now suddenly.
After many tries, this is what I found to be the correct format of entering the backup destination info when connecting to Synology Rsync service from a Readynas NV+ v2 running Radiator 5.
BACKUP DESTINATION
Type: remote
Name: remote: Rsync Server
Host: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Path: NetBackup
Login: (username of the account you created on the Synology for the rsync service)
Password: (password of the account you created on the Synology for the rsync service)
After clicking "Test Connection" this should give a Successful message.
When if saved this backup configuration, and ran it, I received an error message telling me that the account was disabled. I could not figure out why this message was shown as I had setup everything by default on the Synology. I did notice that one setting I had not enabled as it was descibed in my humble opinion to be not needed. This was the "Enable rsync account". I though it would be worth the try to enable it and click on the "Edit rsync Account" button. This opened up a window with rsync accounts which showed to be empty. I clicked on the "Add" button and selected the rsync account which I had already created for the Rsync service and entered its password again. After saving it, suddenly the Readynas Backup worked after running ir from the Readynas Backup page.
Making it complete; I have also screenshots available of the Synology Rsync service configuration that worked for me however, I can only upload one attachement but no zip. any ideas how to add the couple of screenshots I have?
Keep in mind, I created a dedicated user called "rsync" which would only be allowed access to the Rsync NetBackup share location with Read/Write.
Hope this helps others.
xbmcgotham wrote:
Making it complete; I have also screenshots available of the Synology Rsync service configuration that worked for me however, I can only upload one attachement but no zip. any ideas how to add the couple of screenshots I have?
I see "Photos" icon in the toolbar that I use to post screenshots. There can be more than one in a post.
If you don't see that, maybe post a downloadable link to the zip. Then I can reply with the screenshots, so they will be persistant.
Hi, thanks for doing this. I am using an older Mac with safari, maybe this is the reason this function is not shown for me. see attached.
The link to the zip: https://we.tl/t-tCAOWMHYJT
Thanks again StephenB!
Just wondering about one of your comments.
You remarked that it would be good to only have read permission on the Host(ReadyNas) for Rsync. How do I do this? Dont see this in the settings of the Readynas Backup config.
And is the Readynas Backup using Rsync to the Synology NAS always a mirror? I want to be sure that nothing is changed on the Host (Readynas).
xbmcgotham wrote:
You remarked that it would be good to only have read permission on the Host(ReadyNas) for Rsync. How do I do this? Dont see this in the settings of the Readynas Backup config.
On other ReadyNAS it's a share setting.
xbmcgotham wrote:
And is the Readynas Backup using Rsync to the Synology NAS always a mirror? I want to be sure that nothing is changed on the Host (Readynas).
It shouldn't change anything on the source.
There should be a setting that will automatically delete files on the destination Synology that are no longer on the source ReadyNAS. Setting it makes the Synology a true mirror. If you don't set it, you have more protection from deletions, but over time there will "clutter" on the Synology. Personally I do set it.
Ah, ok, I understand. I wont have this option of "read only" for my setup.
I also think that OS5 doesn't have this option to delete files on destination, its not in the option list, see screenshot attached. No worries as this probably means that it will make a proper mirror anyway.
I do think its a pitty that OS5 doesn't have a backup schedular that will allow for week or month backups, it only shows hourly till 24 max. And its a little confusing to configure. :-)
Still great that we got it to work on my end.
CU
xbmcgotham wrote:
Ah, ok, I understand. I wont have this option of "read only" for my setup.
A little surprising that you don't see the option on the share settings screen (page 34 here: http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/READYNAS%20ARM-PLATFORM%20(DUO%20V2,%20NV+%20V2)/RAIDiator%205.3%20SW%20Manual_5Sep12.pdf). I'd expected there would be an rsync control when the rsync button was checked on the top of that screen.
xbmcgotham wrote:
I also think that OS5 doesn't have this option to delete files on destination, its not in the option list, see screenshot attached. No worries as this probably means that it will make a proper mirror anyway.
You might not have the option - there is an old post here saying it wasn't in 5.3.5, but nothing more recent. I believe that if you don't have it, the Synology will include files that aren't on the NAS. You can test this by creating a test file, waiting for it to be backed up, then delete it on the NAS (and see if the deletion propagates when the backup runs again).
If you don't have it, then you could look into the synology backup tools - which should be similar to the ReadyNAS. They might have this option, and they might also have the scheduling options you are looking for.
FWIW, Your screen shot is similar to the one on OS-4 and OS-6. The option I am referring to is on an "advanced" tab just for rsync in both of those. In OS-6, it looks like this:
The wording in OS 4 is confusing - "remove deleted files on source" if I remember it correctly. But it does the same thing.
A little surprising that you don't see the option on the share settings screen (page 34 here: http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/READYNAS%20ARM-PLATFORM%20(DUO%20V2,%20NV+%20V2)/RAIDiator%205.3%20SW%20Manual_5Sep12.pdf). I'd expected there would be an rsync control when the rsync button was checked on the top of that screen.
Yes, thanks for the tip. I was looking in the wrong location. In shares I selected the folder that is being backed-up to the synology NAS and have now enabled "read only" for Rsync.
FWIW, Your screen shot is similar to the one on OS-4 and OS-6. The option I am referring to is on an "advanced" tab just for rsync in both of those. In OS-6, it looks like this:
I do think its not in my version as everything is similar but "advanced" tab is not present. I did notice it being present on my other Readynas Duo.
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