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how to backup without login (NFS vs SMB/AFP)
Hi, just bought a ReadyNAS 312 but not sure yet about some basic principles. I wish to use it mainly as a backup destination but also as the main source for Crashplan backups. In detail I won't be ...
netghiro wrote:
My initial confusion is related to how to automatically mount those network shares on my system (the one eventually running CrashPlan) for them to be available to the local backup software (that will take care to copy files on the NAS).. sorry for bad wording or maybe misunderstanding something.
http://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/Latest/Backup/Mounting_Networked_Storage_Or_NAS_Devices_For_Backup answers that for OSX, and links to a similar article for Windows. I suspect for Linux you simply create a suitable NFS mount point, but I haven't tried it. In any event, you don't really need to go with the headless install on the NAS, though it does have the advantage of avoiding the need for a separate device.
netghiro wrote:
I think than when I'll be on Linux and using NFS shares that will easily automagically mount at every boot (I still wonder if user/password on the NAS must the same on my computer, and to be honest wondering the same for both AFP/SMB!)
With Windows, the username/password can be different. You set this up in the Windows credential manager. I'm not a Mac guy, but I believe Apple's Keychain does the same thing for network resources with OSX. I think that with Linux you need to explicitly use the logon/password in the mount command (I don't think it has the equivalent of Windows credential manager or Apple Keychain).
netghiro wrote:
I already subscribed to a personal unlimited plan (single computer), I may consider the family upgrade but quite happy with saving a bit of money as well. I'll surely try to maintain a couple of good local backup sets in the first place.Which is what I've done. I have a single computer unlimited plan for the NAS. I use Acronis TrueImage to back up the PC "C" drives to the NAS, and also use the NAS as consolidated storage. I maintain 3 local copies of everything (the primary NAS counts as one), and use CrashPlan as inexpensive disaster recovery.
My pro-6 had 2 GB of ram, which worked fine for a few years, but eventually the unlimited retention of deleted files in CrashPlan Central caused CrashPlan to run out of memory. That is what prompted the support request to Crashplan. The solution was to set retention of deleted files to 6 months, and then consolidate the archive. That took quite a while (Crashplan wasn't well-behaved by that point). I also increased the memory in the pro, and have CrashPlan set to use the max possible memory size (which on the pro is about 3.5 GB with a 32 bit JVM).
It's been running fine since then (late June). Anyway, it is a good idea to lower the setting for retention of deleted files. I also set deduplication to "minimal".
I'll check CrashPlan memory limitation(s) with Code42.
I wonder how the headless version will deal with a big set of files (4TB) to start the backup with.. just slow or won't it work at all?
Apparently the ReadyNAS 312 can be upgraded to 4GB ram, but then I'll have both setups (machine and software) unsupported :)
By the way, sorry for not making myself very clear.. as you said the plan is to backup a couple of machines on the NAS (by using backup software/utilities) and then backup the NAS itself online through CrashPlan (headless or not, still not sure about it).
I already subscribed to a personal unlimited plan (single computer), I may consider the family upgrade but quite happy with saving a bit of money as well.
I'll surely try to maintain a couple of good local backup sets in the first place.
My initial confusion is related to how to automatically mount those network shares on my system (the one eventually running CrashPlan) for them to be available to the local backup software (that will take care to copy files on the NAS).. sorry for bad wording or maybe misunderstanding something.
I think than when I'll be on Linux and using NFS shares that will easily automagically mount at every boot (I still wonder if user/password on the NAS must the same on my computer, and to be honest wondering the same for both AFP/SMB!)
Thanks for your help :)
netghiro wrote:
My initial confusion is related to how to automatically mount those network shares on my system (the one eventually running CrashPlan) for them to be available to the local backup software (that will take care to copy files on the NAS).. sorry for bad wording or maybe misunderstanding something.
http://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/Latest/Backup/Mounting_Networked_Storage_Or_NAS_Devices_For_Backup answers that for OSX, and links to a similar article for Windows. I suspect for Linux you simply create a suitable NFS mount point, but I haven't tried it. In any event, you don't really need to go with the headless install on the NAS, though it does have the advantage of avoiding the need for a separate device.
netghiro wrote:
I think than when I'll be on Linux and using NFS shares that will easily automagically mount at every boot (I still wonder if user/password on the NAS must the same on my computer, and to be honest wondering the same for both AFP/SMB!)
With Windows, the username/password can be different. You set this up in the Windows credential manager. I'm not a Mac guy, but I believe Apple's Keychain does the same thing for network resources with OSX. I think that with Linux you need to explicitly use the logon/password in the mount command (I don't think it has the equivalent of Windows credential manager or Apple Keychain).
netghiro wrote:
I already subscribed to a personal unlimited plan (single computer), I may consider the family upgrade but quite happy with saving a bit of money as well. I'll surely try to maintain a couple of good local backup sets in the first place.
Which is what I've done. I have a single computer unlimited plan for the NAS. I use Acronis TrueImage to back up the PC "C" drives to the NAS, and also use the NAS as consolidated storage. I maintain 3 local copies of everything (the primary NAS counts as one), and use CrashPlan as inexpensive disaster recovery.
My pro-6 had 2 GB of ram, which worked fine for a few years, but eventually the unlimited retention of deleted files in CrashPlan Central caused CrashPlan to run out of memory. That is what prompted the support request to Crashplan. The solution was to set retention of deleted files to 6 months, and then consolidate the archive. That took quite a while (Crashplan wasn't well-behaved by that point). I also increased the memory in the pro, and have CrashPlan set to use the max possible memory size (which on the pro is about 3.5 GB with a 32 bit JVM).
It's been running fine since then (late June). Anyway, it is a good idea to lower the setting for retention of deleted files. I also set deduplication to "minimal".
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