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NAS model - ReadyNAS Duo v1, loaded with 2x2TB HDD's. UPS model - Belkin F6H350UK-UNV Problem:- NAS will not monitor UPS - On System/Power/UPS Configuration window, the following message is display...
Thanks everyone for all your input. It's helped me to finally come up with a solution that works for me. Remember that a lot of my kit is old, so it doesn't have latest support.
My setup is as follows:-
- 1 x Belkin UPS (F6H350UK-UNV);
- 1 x Salicru UPS (SPS One);
- 1 x Office PC (Dell XPS 8500) [Windows 7 Home Premium];
- 1 x Network PC (Dell Vostro 220) [Windows 7 Professional SP1];
- 1 x Netgear NAS (ReadyNAS Duo V1) [Firmware 4.1.16].
I monitor the SPS One with the Vostro 220, using "ViewPower" software and
the Belkin with the XPS 8500 using "Belkin Power Management Software for Windows" (Version V3.22m) (BPM).
Power failure shutdown is achieved by -
- BPM shutting down the Office PC from within its program;
- ViewPower shutting down the Network PC from within its program;
- ViewPower shutting down the NAS by running a DOS Batch file on shutdown, containing a 'cURL' script [curl -k https://xxx.xxx.x.x/get_handler -u admin:<password> -d PAGE=System -d OUTER_TAB=tab_shutdown -d INNER_TAB=NONE -d shutdown_option1=1 -d command=poweroff -d OPERATION=set].
This is very much a 'Heath Robinson' setup but my costs for it have been £30 for the Salicru UPS and £25 for the 2nd-hand Dell; I think I've got good value for money!
Once again, thanks to everyone for their contributions.
Paul_Leadbeater wrote:
...and which (of the many) NUT options do I choose to install? Sorry to sound thick but I'm totally not familiar with what's on the Network UPS Tools website.
I thought you'd ruled that option out. You'd install the Windows Beta version in the PC. You'll need to configure it to use monuser as the user name and pass as the password. Then you'd use the "remote UPS" option in the NAS - using the IP address of the PC.
Windows install failed - lib file missing.
I've now got command line access to the NAS (via PuTTY) and would like to try installing NUT on the NAS.
Any advice on how I do it?
I've now got command line access to the NAS (via PuTTY) and would like to try installing NUT on the NAS.
Any advice on how I do it?
Paul_Leadbeater wrote:
I've now got command line access to the NAS (via PuTTY) and would like to try installing NUT on the NAS.
Any advice on how I do it?It is already installed on the NAS.
You're absolutely correct StephenB - I'm learning slowly.
I've done some configuration (following instructions at the shadypixel blog site).
Only thing I didn't do was change the UPS driver (which was set as "usbhid-ups") - and, of course, I got an error "...upsdrvctl failed...".
Main problem is finding the right driver. I've looked in GitHub and found an entry "belkin-hid.c" which contains code but, am I right in saying, this needs to be compiled? At the moment, compiling is beyond me.
Is there anywhere I can get hold of the correct file to just install on my NAS (and a bit of advice as to the right place to install it)?
Best regards,
Paul.
Paul_Leadbeater wrote:
Is there anywhere I can get hold of the correct file to just install on my NAS (and a bit of advice as to the right place to install it)?
Not that I know of. One aspect is that the NAS linux kernel is old, so even if you found a compiled version it likely wouldn't install.
Also, some of your changes might not turn out to be "sticky" - that is, the NAS might replace some of the files when you reboot or do an OS reinstall. Make sure you keep copies of everything you've changed (wouldn't be a bad idea to keep the original also).
More experiments! I'm now trying to use an old android tv box (Android 6) to try to do the monitoring.
Haven'f found any android apps to do the job directly but I'm trying to install a windows emulator on the android box to then install ViewPower (program supplied with my new Salicru SPS One UPS) on the TV box. I have successfully run ViewPower on my PC and got it to shut down the NAS on UPS switch to battery power; only trouble is, it seems to need a user to be logged-in to work.
If I can get the android box to monitor and do the shutdown, I can leave the android running and switch off my PC - my origional requirement.
Would be grateful for any suggestions for android monitoring apps and android emulators.
Just another thought - what's the way to know, if I bought a new NAS, that it will definitely be able to monitor a UPS?
All ReadyNAS can monitor UPS using the NUT software. But I don't know if newer NAS will be able to monitor your Belkin UPS.
How about this?
A TerraMaster F2-210 NAS monitoring a Salicru SPS One 500VA UPS.
How do I check if the NAS will definitely monitor and shut down (i.e. NAS OS, UPS OS, etc.)?
Well, the first check is whether the NAS is detecting the UPS.
The simplest way to check if the NAS will cleanly shut down is to disconnect the UPS from the main power, and see what happens.
If you don't want to risk an unclean shutdown, you can connect the NAS to different power, and put a different load on the UPS. Then you'll either get a clean shutdown, or no shutdown at all.
Sorry, I didn't ask the question right.
What I meant was - checking out the specs of the new units before.buying them.
With an older NAS with the OS not updated in quite some time, it's hard to know. You can check on the NUT web site, but you will not necessarilly know if the older version in your NAS suppots it. You are best off sticking with the major brands like CyberPower and APC.
Thanks for the reply.
I'm convinced now that I'll prpbably never get my old NAS to successfully do the monitor/shutdown operations on my old Belkin UPS
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What I've got now is my ReadyNAS Duo v1, Windows 7 PC, Belkin UPS and Salicru SPS One UPS.
I'm running the NAS from the SPS One and monitoring the SPS One on my PC using Salicru's recommended program - "ViewPower".
The above setup will perform a 'graceful' NAS shutdown on UPS AC power loss (a power cut) BUT only if a User is loggod-on on the PC.
My latest, Plan...Z -
- To add a simple (cheap) Windows 7 PC to my network and run it with a user logged-on all the time;
- Run the Salicru "ViewPower" software on the 2nd PC;
- Control NAS shutdown from the 2nd PC.
Thus, I'll end-up with a sort-of 'Network Controller' setup and multiple units running on this network.
Short of spending a lot of money to upgrade the NAS, I don't see any other way to achieve my requirements.
Anyone any final comments before I close this topic?
Paul_Leadbeater wrote:
Anyone any final comments before I close this topic?
Personally I'd get a second UPS (APC or Cyberpower) - likely cheaper than a Windows 7 PC, and certainly simpler.
If you want to continue down that road and need it to work when nobody is logged into the PC, you probably need to set up the NAS software to run as a system task at power-on via the Windows Task Scheduler.
Thanks everyone for all your input. It's helped me to finally come up with a solution that works for me. Remember that a lot of my kit is old, so it doesn't have latest support.
My setup is as follows:-
- 1 x Belkin UPS (F6H350UK-UNV);
- 1 x Salicru UPS (SPS One);
- 1 x Office PC (Dell XPS 8500) [Windows 7 Home Premium];
- 1 x Network PC (Dell Vostro 220) [Windows 7 Professional SP1];
- 1 x Netgear NAS (ReadyNAS Duo V1) [Firmware 4.1.16].
I monitor the SPS One with the Vostro 220, using "ViewPower" software and
the Belkin with the XPS 8500 using "Belkin Power Management Software for Windows" (Version V3.22m) (BPM).
Power failure shutdown is achieved by -
- BPM shutting down the Office PC from within its program;
- ViewPower shutting down the Network PC from within its program;
- ViewPower shutting down the NAS by running a DOS Batch file on shutdown, containing a 'cURL' script [curl -k https://xxx.xxx.x.x/get_handler -u admin:<password> -d PAGE=System -d OUTER_TAB=tab_shutdown -d INNER_TAB=NONE -d shutdown_option1=1 -d command=poweroff -d OPERATION=set].
This is very much a 'Heath Robinson' setup but my costs for it have been £30 for the Salicru UPS and £25 for the 2nd-hand Dell; I think I've got good value for money!
Once again, thanks to everyone for their contributions.
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