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xlr8r
Aug 30, 2024Luminary
Would this type heatsink/fan be suitable for a Readynas Pro 6 (newest version) running OS 6 ?
Hey guys I have already modded my RNDP6000 with Ram, CPU and PSU but I'm now working on changing the CPU fan as I'm not happy with the only temporarily installed and very basic 'Coolmaster' fan. ...
- Sep 10, 2024
Since I've never had a Pro6 with a quad core processor and have no Pro6 in operation at all at this time, I can't give you specifics. You'll have to experiment. I don't even know what you are seeing right now with that quad-core processor.
But you might want to start by changing the ignore temp3 to this:
label temp3 "CoreX"compute temp3 @%35, @%35Then see what temp1, temp4, etc. do.That @%35 option is non-standard, BTW -- something Netgear apparently added to lm-sensors. But it basically makes the floor of the reading be 35°C, as the internal temperature monitors of CPUs tend to be inaccurate below that threshold.You don't mess with the symbolic link. When you change the target file, the link effectively updates. You may want to keep a copy of the original before you start making changes. You will probably have to at least re-start the readynasd process to see the effect in the GUI, maybe even re-boot.
xlr8r
Aug 31, 2024Luminary
thanks, but as I expected, its just going to draw in already warm air since its not drawing from the side panel vent, and wouldn't work at all well...
will keep looking for a good cooler...
xlr8r
Sep 03, 2024Luminary
Okay, so answering my own question, I went ahead and made the following CPU Heatsink Mod.
Note: some simple drilling + dremeling is involved, but all a very simple 10 minute job. Plus, adding new mounting screws (Amazon).
First, some history
So, this is where I was at having already done the CPU Upgrade (Core 2 Quad Q6700), and PSU Upgrade (BeQuiet) (which was a right pain in the a** !) but worked a treat. Link to that post , here. I was using an old CoolerMaster CPU fan which wasn't doing that great of a job, so I wanted to improve it. The main issue was the EOM cooler....
(Still trying to find some nice, 2 x 4gb DDR2 PC2-5800 1066MHz Ram, but its like looking for 'hens teeth'! Might have to put this one on hold for the time being....)
i.e. stock heatsink with CoolerMaster fan - no noticeable difference from stock fan.
So, to beef things up a bit (..after some research) I found this 'Gelid Solutions SlimHero Low Profile' LGA775 Heatsink/fan. Its a perfect fit on the CPU , lines up with the 4x screw-holes, and even covers some of the Chipset Cooler! Given the 120mm fan, I knew this was going to do two cooling jobs in one...
Everything seemed great until I went to try and attach it to the motherboard as it had its own native screw system that meant you had to put the screws through the back of the motherboard, and into the Gelid Intel mount clips!!
At this point I nearly gave up but then had the idea to just mod the Intel mount clips, so that i could still make use of this cooler... Here is what I did.
Firstly, buy the Gelid SlimHero Cooler & Fan kit (£25.10 from https://www.quietpc.com/gel-slim-hero)
Then, buy these 'spring loaded screws' from Amazon (£3). They do come with the necessary 'starlock' washers, they're just not shown in the amazon advert ?).
Step 1: Now , drill out ONLY the LGA775 holes on the Gelid Intel mounting clips to 5.5mm.
Step 2: Then, using a Dremel "elongate" all 4 x LGA775 holes (now at 5.5mm) about 3mm further inwards, towards the inner clip direction. (Take your time doing this! if you go to close to the edges, its game-over!). My Dremel kit came with a '4mm dia boring-bit' that looks a bit like a 'diamond-cut' shaft that let me 'elongate-cut' the 5.5mm holes into a tic-tac shape).
Step 3: This part is crucial! - before doing anything else, check that each 'spring mount screw' goes through all the new 'tic-tac' shaped holes, and also slides inwards and out, by a few mm. (This is to allow a little "wiggle" room for the screws and cooler to slide around, when mounting it to the board).
Like this...
Step 4: This part is crucial! - Now prepare your 'spring loaded screws' by placing the springs on each screw (like in the pic above). Then place onto (just below the spring) nearest the threads, use 4 x 10mm(dia) x 6mm(hole) washers, to make a '3mm spacer' as such'. Then push the screw-threaded part through your newly drilled/dremeled 5.5mm elongated holes (the washers will stop the screw going through the hole, and only the threaded part should be visible through the other side of the bracket).
Now, this is now the hardest part of the whole thing as you nearly need 3 hands lol!.
With the screwhead now resting on a bench, and the LGA775 bracket resting over the threads (making sure its the right way round!!), you need to press-on the 'starlock' washer so that it locks onto the groove allocated for it. (I used a socket screwdriver to do this by placing a socket bit slightly small diameter than the starlock washer, and placing the socket over the threads, pushing down on the starlock washer until i heard it ' click' into place. Check that all of the washer has wrapped around the locking groove as you don't want one popping off!. Repeat for the other 3 screws.
(Note: you should place the thin protective PVC washers over each screw-hole (included with heatsink kit) since there are no stand-offs being used here. This will protect the motherboard board from the starlock washer, should you overtighten them).
Here is my heatsink installed. You can see the screw, spring, 4x washers, bracket and PVC washer, going into the motherboards threaded mounting hole.
This sorts out the heatsink mod... but the 120mm fan that comes with it makes it too tall for the NAS side panel to go on, so I basically just cut a 110mm hole into the side-panel and strapped on a Noctua NF-p12 120mm Fan. It has enough air flow and pressure to get the job done. (just remember to make its power cable safe for removal!)
My temps now barely fluctuate from these shown below, no matter what im doing ....
Any questions, please feel free to ask.
All items used LINKS
Gelid Solutions SlimHero Low Profile' LGA775 Heatsink/fan
- SandsharkSep 04, 2024Sensei - Experienced User
That's quite an undertaking. I'm wondering what you are doing with your NAS that you felt that a quad-core processor is necessary and whether of not you've realized any real speed improvement. Most of the NAS's standard processes are limited to a single core, so you have to be running a lot of CPU-intensive processes to take advantage of the four cores. And even then, many will be slowed down by multiple processes accessing the RAID simultaneously. On a Pro6, the 800MHz FSB is one of the bottlenecks a faster processor won't overcome, but a faster one does help some. So while a faster CPU (especially on the original Pro with the Pentium Dual E2160 @ 1.80GHz) will help even with standard processes, a quad-core won't typically do much unless you are doing something like transcoding multiple streams simultaneously.
The thing I find slows my NAS down the most is if SMDB reaches 100% of "CPU use" (which is really use of that particular core/thread), and more cores won't help that. What does help is keeping the number of files in any given directory small, as that clearly makes SMDB take less CPU time (still up to 100%, but for a much shorter duration). Defragging might help some, too; but I don't due to the negative impact on snapshot space.
Ditto on the memory, what do you expect to accomplish with more? With just 4GB, I find my NAS using a lot of RAM just for disk buffering. My rack-mount models are more easily upgraded to more than that, and I didn't find any significant improvement, though I also don't have a lot of simultaneous users where it might help more.
Please note I'm not criticizing. I'm interested in informing others of what to expect so they can determine if a mod like this is worthwhile for them.
- xlr8rSep 04, 2024Luminary
To be honest, I have been in IT for 40+ years and just wanted to 'tinker' with my NAS a bit...
The quad CPU def has made a difference, especially with PLEX.
I was hoping to upgrade the ram to 2x4gb 1066 (from 800) just have a little more 'oomph!'...for transcoding etc
on a side note, would you recommend utilizing the network "'bond" (in mode "IEEE 802.3ad LACP) option on this NAS ?, as my Asus ROG GT-AX6000 router supports "Bond/Link aggregation"... I'm not sure about this as I have never had the need to implement it , but since its an option, I'm curious...lol
many thanks
ps. oops! forgot to add one pic of the Gelid Heatsink in position....
- StephenBSep 05, 2024Guru - Experienced User
xlr8r wrote:
on a side note, would you recommend utilizing the network "'bond" (in mode "IEEE 802.3ad LACP) option on this NAS ?, as my Asus ROG GT-AX6000 router supports "Bond/Link aggregation"... I'm not sure about this as I have never had the need to implement it , but since its an option, I'm curious...lol
In general, this doesn't result in much performance gain for most home NAS. It makes a lot more sense when you are deploying in an enterprise where you have lots of PCs accessing the NAS at the same time.
The reason is that with LACP the all traffic going from the NAS to a specific client all goes out the same NIC port. That ensures that the traffic doesn't overrun the client's gigabit connection. Similarly, all the traffic going from a specific client to the NAS also uses the same NIC. The NAS selects the NIC for its outbound traffic, the router will select the NIC for its outbound traffic.
So if (for example) you have two clients, then there is a 50-50 chance that they will share the same NIC when reading from the NAS, and a 50-50 chance that they will share the same NIC when writing to the NAS. So only 1 chance in 4 of getting a performance gain in both directions.
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