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john_es
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Oct 14, 2013

FlexRaid2 - Expanding disks

I have a readynas pro 6. It has 6, 3TB drives, for a total of 13TB of usable space out of 18TB.

I want to start migrating to 4TB drives, but not all at once.

1.) If I put 2, 4TB drives in there, how much additional space will I have? I can't seem to find the space calculator anymore.
2.) Is there any limitation from going from my setup to the new one? I seem to recall some kind of space barrier, but again, I can't find it.

Thanks,
John

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  • mdgm-ntgr's avatar
    mdgm-ntgr
    NETGEAR Employee Retired
    You would get about 0.9TB of expansion.

    Recall the two expansion limitations:
    1. 8TB online over the life of the volume i.e. If when you last did a factory default the volume capacity was say 4.8TB you can't expand past 12.8TB.
    2. You cannot expand a volume past 16TB. You have to do a factory default with the disks in place.
  • Ok - found it at: http://kossboss.siigna.net/xraid.html

    Awesome.

    So current setup is this:
    ===GIVEN:===
    Given: 6 drives
    Given Size [base 10]: 18000.000 GB = 18.000 TB
    Given Size [base 2]: 16763.806 GB = 16.371 TB

    ==RESULTS (Will go below):==
    Single Disk Redundancy
    Disk Space with Raid 5 [base 10]: 15000.000 GB = 15.000 TB
    Final Useable/Filesystem Size with Raid 5 [base 2]: 13881.714 GB = 13.772 TB


    Want to go to this:

    ===GIVEN:===
    Given: 6 drives
    Given Size [base 10]: 20000.000 GB = 20.000 TB
    Given Size [base 2]: 18626.451 GB = 18.190 TB

    ==RESULTS (Will go below):==
    Single Disk Redundancy
    Disk Space with Raid 5 [base 10]: 16000.000 GB = 16.000 TB
    Final Useable/Filesystem Size with Raid 5 [base 2]: 14808.959 GB = 14.692 TB




    Now based on the note:
    (2) An expansion that causes the Total Filesystem size to be 16 TB or more after the expansion will fail.
    * These sizes refer to the Filesystem Sizes, not raw disk space.


    Am I going to have a problem?
  • mdgm wrote:
    You would get about 0.9TB of expansion.

    Recall the two expansion limitations:
    1. 8TB online over the life of the volume i.e. If when you last did a factory default the volume capacity was say 4.8TB you can't expand past 12.8TB.
    2. You cannot expand a volume past 16TB. You have to do a factory default with the disks in place.


    Is that base 10 or base 2?

    And is that total size as in the calculator, usable space, etc.?
  • StephenB's avatar
    StephenB
    Guru - Experienced User
    john_es wrote:
    I have a readynas pro 6. It has 6, 3TB drives, for a total of 13TB of usable space out of 18TB.
    The correct number for single redundancy is ~15TB in power-of-ten units or (equivalently) ~13.6 TiB in power of two units. Frontview reports TiB.

    Assuming that is what you meant, then expansion of usable space is 1 TB (or .9 TiB, as mdgm states).

    Also - the two expansion limits are also in units of TiB.
  • mdgm-ntgr's avatar
    mdgm-ntgr
    NETGEAR Employee Retired
    john_es wrote:

    Now based on the note:
    (2) An expansion that causes the Total Filesystem size to be 16 TB or more after the expansion will fail.
    * These sizes refer to the Filesystem Sizes, not raw disk space.


    Am I going to have a problem?

    No. You're not going to hit the 16TB limit by adding two 4TB disks. However what disks were installed when you last did a factory default? Depending what disks were installed it is possible you may hit the 8TB limit that I mentioned in a post above.
  • Thanks everyone... just to clarify, my NAS was originally setup with the 6x3TB drives.

    Now if I go from 6x3TB to 4x3TB+2x5TB, it would increase from

    Single Disk Redundancy
    Disk Space with Raid 5 [base 10]: 15000.000 GB = 15.000 TB
    Final Useable/Filesystem Size with Raid 5 [base 2]: 13881.714 GB = 13.772 TB

    to

    Single Disk Redundancy
    Disk Space with Raid 5 [base 10]: 17000.000 GB = 17.000 TB
    Final Useable/Filesystem Size with Raid 5 [base 2]: 15736.203 GB = 15.612 TB

    based on the notes from teh page, this is going off of the base 2 filesystem size, so I should still be under 16TB, right?

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