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Curt1
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Nov 30, 2012

Moving disks to "new" unit after a failure

I've done a little research, but just want to confirm that my plan will work:

Briefly, I have an old ReadyNAS that has failed, so I've purchased a similar unit on ebay. I don't have it yet, but the box says "NV+" and it is the sort that does NOT have a display panel on the bottom. That's like my failed unit. The seller says that it's never been used, and has never turned it on. I'm not sure if he bought it new, since he says he bought it "a few years ago". It's at least five or six years old, right?

It's coming with four drives installed, so I can easily turn it on and see what happens. If it doesn't work, I can replace the coin battery. If it checks out, I should be able to swap in my three disks (same order), and it should work? I actually got a new server recently but had not yet moved everything over, so I'll do that immediately. Then I'll get the latest firmware/software installed on it - I'm a little uncertain on how to do that. The old unit had not been updated for many years - I imagine firmware and software is out of sync, but I've read that this will not prevent the unit from starting up.

So, I'd appreciate hearing that this is a good plan, or of any pitfalls. I'm just a photographer, not a computer geek.

(I keep all important files on a variety of disks, DVDs, locations - there are only "nice to keep" files on the failed unit I want to recover.)

FYI: the old unit failed as follows: I shut it down before leaving town for a week (it is rarely shut down otherwise). When I returned, I walked into the closet and touched it - I guess I do this instinctively - and indeed there was a static discharge. Our absence must have made things drier than usual. I touched it again, and there was a second discharge visible within the front USB port - uh oh. Then I pressed the "on" button and nothing. I replaced the coin battery, and still nothing.

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  • If the devices use the same architecture (which there are 3 types.... one type will have firmware of type 4.1.x which is sparc, or 4.2.x which is intel or 5.x which is arm) as long as your new unit has the same architecture you might be okay. The next thing to check is the drives, make sure they are compatible in your new unit using the HCL: http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/20641
    If the model numbers the same you should be okay.
    If the model numbers are different but the disks are compatible and its within the same architecture you should be okay.
    If you the disks arent compatible we wont be able to help you with that as squirelly behavior happens with none compatibles and also switching architectures is highly unsupported.
  • Thanks for the info. Can you tell me if the architectures of these two models are the same:

    My failed unit: a "ReadyNAS NV" (according to tab on back - no plus sign)
    My new unit (in transit): Photo shows that unit does NOT have the lower display LCD, box says "NV+", ebay item description says "Model RNV2-S2-R425".

    Thanks,

    Curt
  • mdgm-ntgr's avatar
    mdgm-ntgr
    NETGEAR Employee Retired
    That sounds like the same architecture. Looks like you've purchased another old Infrant unit.
  • Ah, yes, the item description also says "Infrant (now Netgear) - so all Infrant units are the same architecture - great. I'll let you all know how it turns out. I just hope my disks did not get zapped, or suffer collateral damage. Thanks.
  • Not going well. The "new" unit (an Infrant ReadyNAS NV+, Model RNV2-S2-R425, which does have the LCD display after all - I didn't know it was invisible when off) started up OK with the disks it came with, using the standard initial password (infrant1). But it is hung up with a "booting" message. There was a display off "Checking FS" I think just beforehand. There are three lights showing the presence of my three disks. The fan came on full speed, slowed, sped up, then slowed. The power button is blinking slowly.

    Could there be an inconsistency between the firmware on this new/old unit, and the OS on my disks? I can only guess about when I last updated - three years ago maybe. I can put the as-received disks back in, and go through the upgrade process - but I'd have to take care not to create the reverse inconsistency. Any advice? Thanks.
  • mdgm-ntgr's avatar
    mdgm-ntgr
    NETGEAR Employee Retired
    It is very likely that the firmware in the flash is older than that on your array.

    The firmware in the flash should be at least as new as the firmware on the disks.
  • Yes, very likely. Thanks. I put the original disks back into the "new" server to get it running. I downloaded RAIDiator-4.1.10 and chose it in the control panel for local installation. But the "upload and verify" button remained greyed out. I then tried the same with 4.1.7. Same thing. I need another hint!

    It reports that the current firmware is RAIDiator™ v3.00c1-p2 [1.00a025]. If it matters, I'm using a Mac and Safari, latest versions. I could try another browser.
  • I found a thread discussing a similar issue. The solution was to use Opera. I reported the results in yet another related thread, but I'll do it here, too.

    Installed the latest version of Opera for Mac, 12.11, and was able to hit the recalcitrant button - "verification complete" for RAIDiator-4.1.10. About to hit the "Perform System Update" button ... shutting down and rebooting ... whirring noises from the closet ... "Booting - updating FW" ... the suspense is killing me ... more whirring noises ... "Booting - generating ECC" ... more whirring ... "Booting..." ... SUCCESS!

    Next: install the disks from my failed unit, see if it starts up.
  • Old disks installed, restart successful, files saved! (Again, these were just "nice to have" files - no wedding photos were ever at risk.) There is some flakiness in transferring files to a new server I had happened to just get, but that's been normal - various gremlins had slowly accumulated in the old unit. I'm looking forward to erasing everything on the NV+ and starting fresh.

    I'd like to thank all those who contribute to this forum, my wife, my parents, my producer, the caterers ....

    I should summarize, for the benefit of those who may follow: My old infrant NV failed. Got a never-used Infrant NV+ on ebay for $96 - lucky me - with disks and original firmware installed. Being an Infrant-branded unit, there was no question about it being a version 1 SPARC-based unit - necessary for my old disks to work. The firmware on my disks was newer than on the replacement's flash memory, so I had to upgrade - it would not start up otherwise. This wasn't difficult except for one thing: the old Frontview did not behave well with Safari - a critical button would remain inactive, exceptionally frustrating, I gotta tell you. The upgrade process worked fine with Opera. Then the unit was able to start up with my old disks.