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WiredRacing
Mar 13, 2019Aspirant
Need to add capacity to full RN104 consisting of 2 JBOD volumes.
Searched around and couldn't quite find a definitive answer (also saw a lot of people say this too). Here's my setup and what I'm wanting to do.
Current:
2x3TB (Bays 1 and 2) in 1st JBOD Volu...
- Mar 14, 2019
If you use the home folders, you do need to back up the home folder contents.
The system ought to migrate them to "new", but that's another behavior I wouldn't depend on myself. You are going down a path that isn't well-trodden (and I suspect not well tested by Netgear).
WiredRacing wrote:
2.5) Can I rename it now so that when I import it it'll come back in as "replicated" or once it's exported it's "gone" until reinstalled?
No. The volume will disappear when you export it. And you can't rename volumes in the Web UI,
WiredRacing wrote:
6) Copy the contents of the "Primary" to the "New" Volume (I suspect it's ideal to do this via SSH rather than the browser-based ReadyNAS management tool)
7) Delete the "Primary" volume
8) Recreate the old "Primary" volume shares, on the "New" volume.
9) Remove the Primary Drives
10) Move the 10TB Drive to Bay 1 (no problems moving active volumes betweens bays I'm assuming?)
The order here is wrong. You need to
6) Create new shares (with unique names) on "new" - relating the names to the shares on "primary"
7) copy the data in the shares to "new"
8) Destroy the primary volume
9) Power Down
10) Remove the Primary Drives and move "new" to slot one
11) Power Up
12) Rename the shares on "new' to match the original names on "primary".
As I said earlier, you can't rename "new", so pick a name you can live with for the life of the volume.
As noted above, you need to create new shares on "New" - with names that are unique across all volumes. After that you can either copy with SSH or with Web UI backup jobs. You definitely don't want to create the shares with ssh. They are BTRFS subvolumes - not ordinary folders. And you don't want to copy hidden folders on "primary" as they are managed by the ReadyNAS application software. Don't try to copy snapshots either.
Be careful with ssh - you could easily break the Readynas application software if you try to do this manually. It's safer to use backup jobs to copy the data (one for each share), and the speed will be the same.
WiredRacing wrote:
11) Install one of the 3TB drives from Primary into Bay 2
12) Install the "Replicated" drives back into Bay 3 and 4. If 2.5 above isn't possible, does it ask me to choose a new name for it? Changing it's name is fine.
13) Create another JBOD volume "Extra" with the 3TB drive in Bay 2.
I haven't played much with export. I did it once accidentally a long time ago, and if I remember correctly I ended up losing the volume. Sandshark has used it more (and more recently), so hopefully he will chime in .
But I think these steps aren't quite right. I suggest
11) Power down (again)
12) install the "replicate" disks (preserving slot order).
13) power up, and see if it mounts. The name can't be changed.
The power down might not be needed. Netgear doesn't say - the kb article just says that "The volume will be exported for cold import on another ReadyNAS" without explanation. But I think it likely is needed. Although you could potentially do this step when the NAS was powered down before, I wouldn't do that either. I think the risk is less if you don't combine these steps.
"Replicate" might not remount - since you aren't importing it to another ReadyNAS, you are attempting to import it to the same ReadyNAS (with the same OS partition and configuration). That is what I tried to do years ago when I accidentally exported - and that didn't work for me. If it doesn't remount for you either, then you will need to get advice here or from paid support. Or create a new volume and accept the data loss.
If it does remount:
14) hot insert the 3 TB drive into slot 2
15) format it via the volume page
16) create the "extra" volume
Then if the home folders are gone (and you use them), you need to connect to the NAS with SMB using each user's credentials. That should recreate the home folders. As you do that, restore the contents of each home folder with drag-and-drop using a backup.,
WiredRacing
Mar 17, 2019Aspirant
Update:
So before exporting, I upgraded from 6.7.5 to 6.9.5. Then exported. Powered down, removed the "Replicate" volume and installed the new 10TB drive into Bay 3, created a volume, similar sounding shares and started copying the data over.
Copying the data from the "Primary" volume to the "New" volume took days. Internally on the NAS, the most sustained throughput I could get was around 12mb/s, however if I copied from my desktop using SMB (Windows Share copy) I could get up to 52mb/s. There's a whole thread of this exploration here.
I then powered off, and moved the 10TB to Bay 1, removed all the other disks. after this reboot, SMB wasn't loading. I've started a new thread exploring a permanent solution to this issue here.
Once the copying was done the auto "import" of the exported "Replicate" volume when reinstalling the drives in their bays after a shutdown and power-on worked flawlessly.
I then proceeded to export those two drives again, deciding to build a RAID 0 out of the 2x3TB drives as the contents of that "REPLICATE" volume was content from the "Primary" share.
Once that's complete, I'll take one of the 2TB drives and stick it in Bay 2 for a separate 2TB JBOD volume.
But in short, it worked, with a few unexpected hiccups along the way (the SMB daemon and local copy issues). I'll post in those other threads as I gather more information about those problems for others future reference.
Just glad to be just a few hours done with this project with more space and less 'risky' volumes. Thanks for your guys help here and others posts elsewhere all helping me navigate this project.
Hopefully the NAS will go back to being something I can largely forget about because it just works (as it was prior to this project).
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