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djsflynn
Mar 01, 2009Aspirant
ReadyNAS NV+ hangs during file copy/move
I'm setting up a new ReadyNAS NV+ with my MacBook and am experiencing constant hangs or freezes trying to copy/move files between shares on the NV+.
When I first set up the NV+ (which is running the most recent Radiator, with three drives set to RAID X, share access via AFP only, and connected to the MacBook via a Time Capsule) I just dumped a swag of files onto it under a 'Test' share, as a way of aggregating content from a handful of external USB drives and an about-to-be-decommissioned desktop PC. That went fine.
But now I'm trying to get the NAS a bit better organised – creating separate shares for Documents, Pictures, Music, Video and Software – and moving folders from the Test share into the relevant share. And this is where things are constantly coming unstuck.
At best, I can get a few minutes into the process and then the thing just hangs, which also freezes the Mac's Finder to the extent where even a 'forced quit' on the Mac won't bring the Finder back to life. I end up having to shut down both the NV+ and MacBook by hitting their respective power buttons! I've also tried to copy rather than move the folders around, but same result.
Has anyone here experienced anything like this?
When I first set up the NV+ (which is running the most recent Radiator, with three drives set to RAID X, share access via AFP only, and connected to the MacBook via a Time Capsule) I just dumped a swag of files onto it under a 'Test' share, as a way of aggregating content from a handful of external USB drives and an about-to-be-decommissioned desktop PC. That went fine.
But now I'm trying to get the NAS a bit better organised – creating separate shares for Documents, Pictures, Music, Video and Software – and moving folders from the Test share into the relevant share. And this is where things are constantly coming unstuck.
At best, I can get a few minutes into the process and then the thing just hangs, which also freezes the Mac's Finder to the extent where even a 'forced quit' on the Mac won't bring the Finder back to life. I end up having to shut down both the NV+ and MacBook by hitting their respective power buttons! I've also tried to copy rather than move the folders around, but same result.
Has anyone here experienced anything like this?
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- KrisWAspirantMe too. Similar problems, but what I'm doing is batch-converting Apple Lossless files from one folder on the share into MP3 files on another folder in the share (using the "Max" application). Both folders are on the same AFP share.
RAIDiator 4.0.1 (going to 4.1.4), OS X 10.5.6 + Security Update 2009-1
Reproduction:
1. Mount AFP share
2. Perform Finder search on share (files modified after date YYYY-MM-DD)
3. Drag results of seach into Max
4. Start converting the Lossless files, output to be written to another folder on the share. (eight threads are spawned to do the conversion, so there are eight separate operations in progress at any time)
Result:
After between 5 and 20 seconds, writing to the AFP share stalls completely. No other client is able to see or access the share. Attempting to access the share causes Finder to stall so badly that it won't even respond to Force Quit (an old, old bug that Apple haven't fixed in eight years :| )
I am about 95% convinced that this is Apple's problem, but hoping that the new firmware will have some workaround.
NFS seems unaffected, but using NFS shares of volumes that were populated using AFP has its own set of painful surprises that I'd rather not repeat.
Updated to RAIDiator 4.1.4 and did a full filesystem check too, just in case. The problem persists. - KrisWAspirantI've logged a bug with Apple about this, and they are investigating it (no, I mean they really are.. I got a mail-back from a real person). It seems that changes Apple made to AFP in 10.5.6 (or Security Update 2009-1) don't play nice with netatalk (the program that provides AFP file sharing on the ReadyNAS).
Right now, as a workaround I'm using CIFS (SMB), and it's as clunky as hell... no automatic mount support, some disturbing filename mangling, and that's not to mention it being slower than AFP by a factor of about 3. - chirpaLuminary
Interesting, keep us updated.KrisW wrote: I've logged a bug with Apple about this, and they are investigating it (no, I mean they really are.. I got a mail-back from a real person). It seems that changes Apple made to AFP in 10.5.6 (or Security Update 2009-1) don't play nice with netatalk (the program that provides AFP file sharing on the ReadyNAS). - balevineAspirantHas there been any update regarding this matter?
- KrisWAspirantLast I got was last week (March 3) to sent on additional system logs to Apple. That was done, but no word yet.
(Radar #6635069, for any Apple employees lurking) - shaunchitAspirantHi Guys
I have the same problem on all my Mac's in my house running 10.5.6. Thank you for posting the bug with apple. As this has been driving me mad. - bdiccusAspirantI just need to add myself to this thread if it every gets updated. I'm trying to do Tivo Transfers and conversions at the same time and the AFP service hangs on the ReadyNAS +.
The only message i can find in my mac is the following:
3/23/09 3:21:08 PM kernel AppleYukon2: 00000000,00000001 sk98osx sky2 - - sk98osx_sky2::replaceOrCopyPacket tried N times
Not sure if it's relevant. - amiramirAspirantIs this related to the new AFP commands that are part of 10.5.6?
c.f. http://lists.apple.com/archives/Filesys ... 00031.html
Does anyone know if this patch to netatalk fixes the problem?
http://marc.info/?l=netatalk-devel&m=12 ... 214854&w=2
-A- - aaron_sfAspirantI have the same problem....
sometimes I will be doing something simple like drag-dropping a file from my desktop to a folder on the NAS via finder afp...
the system will reboot...
other times, like today, when I was trying out this new time machine support ... it got 200MB into the copy and then locked up the entire machine...
I hope it gets fixed soon because I keep corrupting my fusion bootcamp vm with these random lockups.... the only way out is to power off ! - balevineAspirantI added the 1GB kingston memory upgrade and it seemed to help. I'm not doing tons of major file operations any more, but when it does hang, it seems to recover better with the additional memory.
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