I'm about to buy a RN516 with 6 Seagate 4TB 3.5" SATA3 64MB Cache OEM Hard Drive (ST4000VN000) that I will install myself. I currently keep all my media data on a ReadyNAS Pro 6350.I intend to use the RN516 as my new media server with the ReadyNAS Pro as my backup (until I run out of space).A few questions before I start the project:1) Any tips on the best way to setup the diskless RN516 with the 6 new 4TB drives? Should I start expanding with 1 drive or several installed at once?2) Once the 516 is setup, I have 8TB of data to move to the RN516. Is there a faster way than setting up a RSync backup from the PRO to the RN516 through the network?Thanks for your help!

You can install them at once, you will have only a single rebuild, if you add them it will rebuild once per disk added I think (rebuild is very long ;) really, I have a RN104 with 4*4To (same model as yours, works like a charm) it took 38hours to rebuild, the 516 should be quicker but still expect 10 hours for you 6 disks at least). USB3 is faster than ethernet, e-sata is too so if you have USB disk that can keep up... otherwise rsync or FTP I believe the speed is nearly the same, even AFP/SMB shouldn't be that slow IMO. If you don't have gigabit network you may want to get a PC with a gigabit switch (or two gig NIC on the PC). Maybe jumbo frames can help. That said I believe that no matter what you are doing the Duo will struggle and limit the speed anyway so...

Rsync or nfs (over the network) will be quicker than usb because with usb you need to transfer twice.Certainly if you have a gigabit network that it is the case. Using NFS and then editing the backup to use rsync and rerunning it is a good strategy

Yes, the network is a gigabit. I only considered using RSync. I'm interested in learning more about NFS as you seem to be suggesting it would be quicker for the initial backup.Where I can learn more about NFS and how it applies to the ReadyNAS?Thanks

Nfs is a file sharing protocol like CIF/SMB or AFP. Since it is native to linux generally is the fastest protocol between two linux machines. You can easily select it in the backup menu.Rsync is good at incremental backup and full preservation of owners and permissions. If you edit the backup job after the first time you run it to use rsync, then subsequent backups will use that. The remote share needs to have both enabled.Note that if you create a new backup job, it will do a full backup the first time it runs even if the files are already in the destination share. You need to use the editing trick to avoid that.

Excellent! Great tip.Once the PRO is running reliably as an Rsync backup NAS to the RN516, is it possible to backup to the PRO from a remote location (my office)? I'm worried about chewing up too much bandwidth once I make a connection.Thanks

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StephenB

Guru - Experienced User

Oct 01, 2014

herbg wrote:
Firmware: 4.2.26 for ReadyNAS Pro and 6.1.9 on the RN516.

If I add the PATH to the DESTINATION, I'll end up with a "Photos" folder embedded into the "Photos" folder of the ReadyNAS Pro - won't I?

No, you shouldn't.

herbg
Tutor
Oct 02, 2014
Unfortunately, that's exactly what happened.

Since I added the Destination into the path, I now have an embedded "Photos" folder - populated by duplicate files - in the ReadyNAS Pro "Photos" share.

The backup should be doing an incremental backup to the existing "Photos", "Movies", "Music", "Documents", and "Backup" shares on the ReadyNAS Pro with the originals from the RN516.
But that's not what's happening. I'm getting imbedded "Photos", etc folders in each of the shares on the ReadyNAS Pro with duplicated files.

I don't understand what's wrong.
StephenB
Guru - Experienced User
Oct 02, 2014
I am backing up in the other direction (running the job on the RN102, with a remote source and a local destination). Path is specified on the local source.

Are you running a 6.1.9 beta? There was a beta release that had the duplicate folder issue, but that was quickly backed out.
herbg
Tutor
Oct 02, 2014
Yes, I was running the backups the other way for months too with no problems.

I don't think I'm running a beta version. There is no indication that it is a beta. How do I tell?
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired
Oct 02, 2014
Download the logs and let us know the contents of initrd.log and os_version.log

herbg wrote:
Firmware: 4.2.26 for ReadyNAS Pro and 6.1.9 on the RN516. If I add the PATH to the DESTINATION, I'll end up with a "Photos" folder embedded into the "Photos" folder of the ReadyNAS Pro - won't I?

herbg

Tutor

Oct 02, 2014

Here is the log for initrd.log:


[2014/05/26 15:58:16] Factory default initiated due to new disks (no RAID, no partitions)!
[2014/05/26 15:58:40] Defaulting to X-RAID2 mode, RAID level 5
[2014/05/26 15:58:46] Factory default initiated on ReadyNASOS 6.0.8.
[2014/05/26 17:18:00] Updated from ReadyNASOS 6.0.8 (1371611904) to 6.1.8 (1398980083).
[2014/09/18 18:13:30] Updated from ReadyNASOS 6.1.8 (1398980083) to 6.1.9 (1409791183).

Here is os_version.log:


ReadyNASOS!!version=6.1.9,time=1409791183,arch=x86_64

mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired
Oct 02, 2014
Yes, that is the production 6.1.9 release.
herbg
Tutor
Oct 02, 2014
Any thoughts on next steps or should I try and contact Netgear to open a service ticket?
herbg
Tutor
Oct 27, 2014
I'm in contact with Netgear support and the next step appears to be a full Factory Reset.

The OS Reinstall did not solve the problem. The issue remains ... unable to create a Backup Job on the RN516 that backs up files to my ReadyNAS Pro 6350.

Not very good news ...
mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired
Oct 27, 2014
I will take a look at your case #23988706

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