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geojay
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Jul 02, 2016
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Understanding X-RAID and capacity

I'm thinking of upgrading from an almost full ReadyNAS Duo (with two 2GB disks) to an RN10400. I've got a spare 2GB disk and plan to buy an additional 4TB disk.

 

Given these three 2GB disks and the single 4GB disk, what storage will this allow me to run if I use all four disks? Will I be able to run two redundant 2GB pairs (with the 4GB disk only half utilised) giving a 4GB total? What's the maxium disk that each bay will take? I don't really understand how X-RAID works with four disks!

 

Thanks in advance,

Geoff


  • geojay wrote:

    I don't understand your logic I'm afraid. I understand that the 4TB drive will only function as a 2TB drive in this configuration so let's treat it as a 2TB drive and then we have four 2TB drives or 8TB total. I'm assuming everything is redundant so does that not give us 4TB of effective capacity?

     


    Nope.

     

    With this disk configuration XRAID uses RAID-5.  Here's a (somewhat simplified) picture of how RAID-5 redundancy works.  It's a math trick.

     

    Imagine 3 blocks of data - A, B, C. These blocks are stored on three of the disks.

    Now compute P=A+B+C, and store that in the corresponding slot of the fourth disk.

     

    If any disk fails, you can compute the missing block from the corresponding blocks on the other three disks.

    A = P-B-C

    B = P-A-C

    C = P-A-B

    P = A+B+C

     

    So you are protected from a single disk failure.  The overhead is 25% in this case, not 50%.

     

    XRAID is a more sophisticated when you have mixed disk sizes.  But even with mixed disk sizes, capacity = (sum of all drives)-largest

     

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  • StephenB's avatar
    StephenB
    Guru - Experienced User

    Capacity = (sum of all drives)-largest

     

    That is 6 TB with 3x2TB+4TB.  2 TB of the 4TB drive won't be used until you upgrade another drive to 4 TB.

    • geojay's avatar
      geojay
      Guide

      I don't understand your logic I'm afraid. I understand that the 4TB drive will only function as a 2TB drive in this configuration so let's treat it as a 2TB drive and then we have four 2TB drives or 8TB total. I'm assuming everything is redundant so does that not give us 4TB of effective capacity?

       

      Thanks!


      StephenB wrote:

      Capacity = (sum of all drives)-largest

       

      That is 6 TB with 3x2TB+4TB.  2 TB of the 4TB drive won't be used until you upgrade another drive to 4 TB.


       

      • StephenB's avatar
        StephenB
        Guru - Experienced User

        geojay wrote:

        I don't understand your logic I'm afraid. I understand that the 4TB drive will only function as a 2TB drive in this configuration so let's treat it as a 2TB drive and then we have four 2TB drives or 8TB total. I'm assuming everything is redundant so does that not give us 4TB of effective capacity?

         


        Nope.

         

        With this disk configuration XRAID uses RAID-5.  Here's a (somewhat simplified) picture of how RAID-5 redundancy works.  It's a math trick.

         

        Imagine 3 blocks of data - A, B, C. These blocks are stored on three of the disks.

        Now compute P=A+B+C, and store that in the corresponding slot of the fourth disk.

         

        If any disk fails, you can compute the missing block from the corresponding blocks on the other three disks.

        A = P-B-C

        B = P-A-C

        C = P-A-B

        P = A+B+C

         

        So you are protected from a single disk failure.  The overhead is 25% in this case, not 50%.

         

        XRAID is a more sophisticated when you have mixed disk sizes.  But even with mixed disk sizes, capacity = (sum of all drives)-largest

         

  • I think with 3 x 2TB plus 1 x 4TB you will end up with an unused 2TB of space on the 4TB drive. I think you need at least two drives of equal (or larger) size to use the maximum space - the max will be limited by the smallest drive.

     

    See this xraid configurator for details.

    • StephenB's avatar
      StephenB
      Guru - Experienced User

      aks wrote:

      I think with 3 x 2TB plus 1 x 4TB you will end up with an unused 2TB of space on the 4TB drive. I think you need at least two drives of equal (or larger) size to use the maximum space - the max will be limited by the smallest drive.

       

      See this xraid configurator for details.


      Looks like our posts crossed.  Your analysis is correct.

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