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I've been searching the forums and the Internet in general, today, as I have gotten my first notice from Comcast that, lo, I am over my 1 Terabyte limit, this month. It has been inching toward that mark for a bit, and last month was around 944 Gig. What can I say: We are a connected, gaming, streaming family and our Comcast link is a vital utility. I have seen suggestions on this forum to "just disconnect everything and reconnect until you find the hog." With 30ish devices on the network, 4 kids, 2 renters, and countless visitors, this is simply not a possibility. What I could do is set up a different router (preferably one with this feature) and move the connections over to it one-by-one until I find the offender. If I have to go that route, I highly doubt the Orbi would get reconnected. Which is a shame because it is a pretty decent solution for everything else.
I would like for Netgear to seriously consider giving customers an option for this data. There are many ways to do it, but ANY of them would be acceptable to me. I'm a long-time networking pro, so even if these are scary for some people, at least it would be an option.
- Do the metering in the device with display of the statistics in the interface and in the app. This is obviously going to make the most customers happy because it would give us a report per-device of the usage. This isn't rocket science: Even if the device has a database limitation of 100 devices to monitor, or even 50, it would be useful. COMCAST does it on their modem devices for xFi. It can't be that hard.
- Do the metering externally by providing SNMP statistics on a per-device basis for smaller timeframes. This would mean that the Orbi doesn't have to store "dead" devices forever and would be up to whatever stat-gathering tool was used.
- Do the metering externally by providing some app that collects the data to a desktop. Maybe Java so you can hit Windows, Linux, and Mac all at once with it.
- Provide traffic mirroring to a selected wired port. This would at least give me the ability to plug in Wireshark or other tools to see what is going on. It would be super useful for troubleshooting intermittent issues and not just bandwidth monitoring.
- Provide netflow/sflow output to a collector on the home network. This would also have broader uses than just bandwidth monitoring, but it is potentially the hardest to use solution in this list. If it is easy to implement in the Orbi (i.e., the chips already support it), then I'll take it happily.
- Other things I haven't mentioned. Look, I'm desperate, here. I will find a way to use anything that helps.
I get 2 months free "warnings" from Comcast, but the cost of not knowing this outweighs replacing the Orbi. Once I start getting charged $10/50 Gig, I'm going to need to know right then and there. And if I don't have a reasonable answer by that time, another Orbi will be going out to eBay.
195 Comments
- keithk2022Novice
It's 2022 and I'm surprised this feature raised back in 2018 has not been implemented. I feel embrassed when my friend saying his free router from the internet provider (Comcast) has this while I've paid premium price to buy this advanced router (Orbi) lacking this basic feature.
- razcakappaFledgling
This is redeculous, even cheap entry level routers from Asian brands offer more options than this Nighthawk spaceships. This is a total abuse of a brand identity. Eveyone dreams to own it, however once you have it its nothing a old peice of junk. And no one talks about the bitter truth.
I'm on my way to making my mind to sell newly bought RAX120 while its in open box condition and go for a ROG Rapture GT-AX11000.
- Wgray87Novice
Welp, 3.5 years and has Netgear ever even responded to this request? This reminds me of that meme story about the programmer that started a new job at a software company and quit on his first day after only about an hour at his desk. Turned out he was actually a user of the software product that was so annoyed by a bug that he couldn't get them to fix that he got a job at the company, went through all the paperwork and training to get access, spent the hour it took to fix the bug, then quit. You are that company Netgear. Get it together.
- cdondanvilleFledgling
Let me first say that there are many things I like about the Orbi. It range is unparelleled ant I have coverage frond my three units not only in my house, but in my shop and over most of my 6 acre property. The stability has been great and adding a new base was a non event.
I was extremely vexed by the inability to monitor traffic by device, but the need was driven by my poor and limited internet connection.My solution away anything but elegant. I switched internet providers from pathetic AT&T DSL to SpaceEx Starlink. My band widths went from 3 Mb to 300 Mb overnight. With no data caps and more reliable service than my wired internet, the need to monitor device usage went away. Only cons are disruption in service during extreme rain events and longer latency. (70 ms vs 30 ms with wired)
While a little pricey at $400 base sytation and $99 per month, it allowed me to keep my investment in my Orbi system.
- razcakappaFledgling
Even basic Asus routers have device based traffic monitoring.
The super duper AX12 NIGHTHAWK (Nighthawk is a spy plane :) however it's a embarrasement it can't even spy on device bandwidth consumption. I rellay regret my decision over buyinh Netear, I should have gone to Asus ax router - rburn999Onlooker
This is insane to completely and continually ignore your own customers.. the very people who are responsible for your success. We asked for something and you've incredibly refused to help us for over FOUR YEARS now. This is NOT a "Gee this would be kinda cool if we could see how much data our devices are using." With more and more internet providers enforcing data caps, it is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to know the data usage for every device that flows through our routers.When we are notified we are going to have our internet cut off, throttled, or penalized, it is obviously some device we are unaware of, a hijacking neighbor, or a device that, unlike a pc or phone, can't show it's usage. We are unable to resolve the issue or we wouldn't be asking you year after year for the necessary tool.
- gmuttFledgling
I have been using my orbi for years, and waiting for this feature like everyone else.
clearly netgear is not implementing this. I will be looking at a new mesh router system to replace orbi when these things kick the bucket. Not buying netgear products again if they don't listen to their customers. And I won't be recommending these to my friends again.
I'm not denying these seem to work well and are reliable, so i suspect replacing wont happen for another year or two, but having to use pfsense or some mirrored port traffic graph solution is obsurd when the router is only using 7% cpu and 3gb of 4gb flash and 205 of 500 memory usage.
I'd rather not do custom solutions for something that my old WRT54G did with custom firmware 10+ years ago.
- VectorSigmaAspirant
Replace your ISP router with a homemade pfsense router. you can install a plug-in to monitor all devices on the network.
- MiddKidGuide
For all of us that have this years-old thread set up for notifications, sorry...this is not to say the feature is available but rather to ask the following...
In the absence of this feature, does anyone have any recommendations on how to do this even if it's temporary? While I have a lot of devices on my Orbi network (60+) I have a suspicion that I have a device or two that are going rouge with their downloads. On a "normal" day we are averaging 40GB/day (and that's without a bunch of streaming). Right now the kids and wife are at school and I'm home working. The Orbi bandwidth monitor says I'm at 6.3GB already today over the course of 10 hours when either everyone was sleeping and/or hardly anyone was home. I'm really trying to nail down what's gobbling up 6GB of bandwidth during these "off hours." I was trying to use Xfinity's monitor but it's not real-time.
Side note, I have zero complaints on my Orbi AX6000 system. I've got great coverage/speeds and am running 5 satellites (3 of which have ethernet backhaul).
Right now I'm deciding between two paths.
- Do the toggle on/toggle off approach. With 60+ devices this seems a bit daunting but I have everything I need to do it.
- Buy a new router that supports bandwidth by device monitoring, put the Orbi in AP mode, monitor bandwidth for a few days, then return it. A lot of hassle but an easy/clear answer.
Just curious if anyone out there had any other suggestions before heading down these paths (or even specific router recommendations). Thanks all.
+1 for per device logging. also would be good to be able to bandwidth limit per device.