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titanicnut
Feb 07, 2023Star
CAX80 Uploading Issues
This is our 2nd Nighthawk CAX80 … just replaced it yesterday. We are still having the same issues as before. Comcast has been out to check wiring and it’s all good. I have a main channel on smart c...
FURRYe38
Feb 07, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Can you capture the downlink portion of the cable connections page from a web page on a PC? The screen on your mobile devices is too small and not getting all the downlink data we need to see in this section.
I would find each device and match that MAC Address to it.
titanicnut
Feb 07, 2023Star
- FURRYe38Feb 07, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Ok I see things look on for power, kind low but well with in specs.
Channels 7,8, and 9 have some Correctables but not horrible.
Be sure there are no coax cable line splitters in the between the modem and ISP service box.
Be sure your using good quality RG6 coax cable up to the modem.
Start with removing any amplifiers, signal attenuators, or splitters from the coax.
From there check the line for kinks, damage, moisture in the line.
Check the connectors for improperly made ends, foil touching the copper coax line, loose connections, bad/old/cheap connectors, or corroded connections. Replace them if you do.I'd find the devices that's having problems connecting and see if this helps. Possible this device is dragging something down causing wifi and upload issues.
This version is supposed to have fixed a long standing 5Ghz upload issue in prior versions of FW. I tested this and a beta on my CAX80 last year to help NG check this. I used a ASUS GT-AX11000 and a NG RAXE500 set to wireless bridge mode and uploaded several Gigs of data to a cloud storage and saw no issues during any uploads. I believe I used manual channels 1 and 40 and AX and OFDMA were enabled and 40Mhz Coexistence was set as well. Beamforming and MIMO enabled too.
- titanicnutFeb 07, 2023Star
Ok I see things look on for power, kind low but well with in specs.
I know the upload channel power levels are low but comcast claims they can't fix them
Channels 7,8, and 9 have some Correctables but not horrible.
what needs correcting?
Be sure there are no coax cable line splitters in the between the modem and ISP service box. yup already checked
Be sure your using good quality RG6 coax cable up to the modem. I am but replaced it anyways
Start with removing any amplifiers, signal attenuators, or splitters from the coax. there weren't any
From there check the line for kinks, damage, moisture in the line. from what we can see in the attic there isn't any
Check the connectors for improperly made ends, foil touching the copper coax line, loose connections, bad/old/cheap connectors, or corroded connections. Replace them if you do. again, hard to check in the attic but how much of the line we could see we didn't see anything weirdI'd find the devices that's having problems connecting and see if this helps. Possible this device is dragging something down causing wifi and upload issues. I did find it was the printer we forgot to re-connect BUT we have had issues for way longer than the 24 hours this printer was trying to connect.
This version is supposed to have fixed a long standing 5Ghz upload issue in prior versions of FW. According to Netgear Tech Support there is no long standing issue. Ugh! They also claim it's not the recent firmware update that is messing things up even though we didn't have problems until it came through.
They changed our DNS from auto to some google numbers (they remoted into my laptop)... didn't fix the problem.
They asked me to request Comcast give us a static DNS... comcast doesn't do that for residential customers.
My list of "things to try" is getting longer and longer but nothing is working! This is super frustrating since we work from home and it disrupts us all day long.
- FURRYe38Feb 07, 2023Guru - Experienced User
What devices are you using for the 5Ghz upload?
Lets set manual channels 1 on 2.4Ghz and 40 on 5Ghz.
Take the check mark out of the Enable AX and Enable 20/40Mhz Coexistence check boxes.
Set Transmit Power to 50% on both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz.
titanicnut wrote:
Ok I see things look on for power, kind low but well with in specs.
I know the upload channel power levels are low but comcast claims they can't fix them
Ya they can fix them, thats on them.
Channels 7,8, and 9 have some Correctables but not horrible.
what needs correcting?
Those should be reading mostly zeros, Items below could help:
Be sure there are no coax cable line splitters in the between the modem and ISP service box. yup already checked
Be sure your using good quality RG6 coax cable up to the modem. I am but replaced it anyways
Start with removing any amplifiers, signal attenuators, or splitters from the coax. there weren't any
From there check the line for kinks, damage, moisture in the line. from what we can see in the attic there isn't any
Check the connectors for improperly made ends, foil touching the copper coax line, loose connections, bad/old/cheap connectors, or corroded connections. Replace them if you do. again, hard to check in the attic but how much of the line we could see we didn't see anything weirdLines in this space been replaced?
I'd find the devices that's having problems connecting and see if this helps. Possible this device is dragging something down causing wifi and upload issues. I did find it was the printer we forgot to re-connect BUT we have had issues for way longer than the 24 hours this printer was trying to connect.
So after connecting it, problem still happens?
This version is supposed to have fixed a long standing 5Ghz upload issue in prior versions of FW. According to Netgear Tech Support there is no long standing issue. Ugh! They also claim it's not the recent firmware update that is messing things up even though we didn't have problems until it came through.
You can try downgrading FW to prior version and see.
They changed our DNS from auto to some google numbers (they remoted into my laptop)... didn't fix the problem.
They asked me to request Comcast give us a static DNS... comcast doesn't do that for residential customers.
My list of "things to try" is getting longer and longer but nothing is working! This is super frustrating since we work from home and it disrupts us all day long.
- titanicnutFeb 07, 2023Star
What devices are you using for the 5Ghz upload?
2 cell phones and 2 windows laptops
Lets set manual channels 1 on 2.4Ghz and 40 on 5Ghz. done
Take the check mark out of the Enable AX and Enable 20/40Mhz Coexistence check boxes. done
Set Transmit Power to 50% on both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz. can't... it only gives 100, 80, 60, 40 and 20
Okay just checked and now it's worse. Having issues just sending an email with text only. crum!
@titanicnut wrote:
Ok I see things look on for power, kind low but well with in specs.
I know the upload channel power levels are low but comcast claims they can't fix them
Ya they can fix them, thats on them. I'll contact them again
Check the connectors for improperly made ends, foil touching the copper coax line, loose connections, bad/old/cheap connectors, or corroded connections. Replace them if you do. again, hard to check in the attic but how much of the line we could see we didn't see anything weirdLines in this space been replaced? no because access is quite limited up there
I'd find the devices that's having problems connecting and see if this helps. Possible this device is dragging something down causing wifi and upload issues. I did find it was the printer we forgot to re-connect BUT we have had issues for way longer than the 24 hours this printer was trying to connect.
So after connecting it, problem still happens? no there's nothing showing up in the logs anymore. THAT problems fixed lol.
This version is supposed to have fixed a long standing 5Ghz upload issue in prior versions of FW. According to Netgear Tech Support there is no long standing issue. Ugh! They also claim it's not the recent firmware update that is messing things up even though we didn't have problems until it came through.
You can try downgrading FW to prior version and see. oooooo! how do I do that?!?! and when/if I can do it, won't it revert back when it looks for firmware the next time around?
- FURRYe38Feb 08, 2023Guru - Experienced User
What is the brand and model#s of the phones and laptops?
Ok so disabling Smart Connect. Can you connect to the 2.4Ghz only SSID name and upload OK?
Do you have Airtime Fairness enabled or disabled? It's disabled on mine.
https://kb.netgear.com/23960/How-do-I-manually-update-the-firmware-on-my-NETGEAR-router
Possible. Something maybe we can get NG to stop if older version works...Worth trying if you can.
- titanicnutFeb 08, 2023Star
iPhone XR and Samsung S22
HP Laptop and MSI Creator Z16
Disabled the smart connect and still cannot upload on either the 2.4 or 5
I didn't have Airtime Fairness enabled but enabled it to see if it helped and it didn't. It's back disabled again.
I tried to roll back the firmware but the downloaded file only gave me a .bin and it's supposed to be a .img or .chk
ugh!
- titanicnutFeb 08, 2023Star
Thank you for all your help with my issue. After spending the last 6 hours on and off the phone with Netgear Tech Support (not to mention at least 15 hours over the past several days!) and NOT getting it fixed we have decided to return the Nighthawk CAX80 and get a motorola.
We're DONE with netgear!!!
- FURRYe38Feb 08, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Good Luck.