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Can't use switch with Router

jfklfjg
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Can't use switch with Router

The C6300 has 4 LAN ports, but I need twice that many. When I connect a switch, the C6300 appears only DHCP one IP address per port, leaving the rest of the switch ports dead. Is there a way around this?

 

I would rather not use a second router, since then I have to actively manage all the port forwarding.

Model: C6300|AC1750 Cable Modem Router Docsis 3.0
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FURRYe38
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Re: Can't use switch with Router

Not sure what switches your using. Sounds like the ones you have are either faulty or you have bad cabling. Most any gateway modems only come with 4 LAN ports. Most modems you get support having a external LAN switch connected. From 5 ports all the way up to 48. Yours as well.

 

You might find a local computer shop to help out and see if they can help you get a proper Gb LAN switch connected. 

 

Good Luck.


@jfklfjg wrote:

I returned the last switch I tried, so at the moment I don't any switches, except for one mystery unit that totally unmarked. I would have to go buy another to do more experiments. I am leaning toward sending this cable modem to the recycler and buying another with more LAN ports.


 

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FURRYe38
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Re: Can't use switch with Router

No. 

 

What Mfr and model # switch are you using? 

Try NG GS-105/108v4, D-Link DGS-105/108 and HP ProCurve 1400/1800 series switches.

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antinode
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Re: Can't use switch with Router

> The C6300 [...]

 

   Configured as a modem+router, not as a modem-only?  Connected to
what?

 

> [...] When I connect a switch, [...]

 

   Has your (unspecified) "a switch" a maker and model number?
"connect" how, exactly?

 

> [...] the C6300 appears only DHCP one IP address per port, leaving the
> rest of the switch ports dead.

 

   "appears"? "dead"?  Please report actual actions and observations,
not your interpretations of those results.

 

> [...] Is there a way around this?

 

   I don't know what "this" is.  Connecting a network switch to a router
LAN port should simply work.


> I would rather not use a second router, since then I have to actively
> manage all the port forwarding.

 

   Cascading multiple routers would probably be a mistake.

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jfklfjg
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Re: Can't use switch with Router

If there is no solution, why would particular switches work? I don't understand. I tried two very old switches I had, but neither worked. I went to Office Depot and purchased a Netgear switch (don't recall the model - had four ports), but it didn't work. The I tried to use an old Netgear Prosafe that I had lying around and it worked for a week until it failed.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Can't use switch with Router

Be sure your LAN cables are of good quality. CAT6 is recommended. 

ANY Gb LAN switch should work, unless you have a faulty unit, switch or bad cabling. 

 

 

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jfklfjg
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Re: Can't use switch with Router

Out of the three switches I tried, they all had the same behaviour. The first item plugged connects to the wider network. Anything else connected to a port of the switch afterwards does not. If I have to supply a particular model number at this point, then I will have to go buy another switch. I got rid of anything that didn't work.

 

The C6300 is a cable modem with four LAN ethernet ports and WiFi. No idea what you mean by "configured."

 

"Connect" means that one of the ports on the switch is connected to one of the ports on the cable modem. Is there another choice?

 

I am using cables that are about three feet long. The pretty green lights come on at both ends, with occassional blinking even on ports that just spin their wheels and don't connect.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Can't use switch with Router

Why not give model # of what you have? Would be helpful. It's nothing private to be concerned about. Ther maybe a mis-configuration. 

Just tring to help here. I know my C7800 has had switches behing it. No issues. 

 

I've had a few switches connected to my c7800 series modem. Zero issues. 

 

Good Luck though. 

 

 

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jfklfjg
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Re: Can't use switch with Router

I returned the last switch I tried, so at the moment I don't any switches, except for one mystery unit that totally unmarked. I would have to go buy another to do more experiments. I am leaning toward sending this cable modem to the recycler and buying another with more LAN ports.

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antinode
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Re: Can't use switch with Router

> The C6300 is a cable modem [...]

 

   Not really.  It's a cable modem+router.

 

> [...] with four LAN ethernet ports and WiFi. [...]

 

   If you're using the Ethernet ports and/or the wireless stuff, then
it's configured as a modem+router.

 

> [...] No idea what you mean by "configured."

 

>    Configured as a modem+router, not as a modem-only? [...]

 

   Which part of that choice was unclear?

 

   Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
for Documentation.  Get the User Manual.  Read.  Look for "Change the
Router Mode".


> "Connect" means that one of the ports on the switch is connected to
> one of the ports on the cable modem. Is there another choice?

 

   Just trying to make sure.  Some people here (especially those with
strange problems and sloppy descriptions) can be pretty creative.  You
could have other routers, or who knows what?  With my weak psychic
powers, I can't see any of it.

 

> [...] ports that just spin their wheels and don't connect.

 

   Not a useful description of anything.  It does not say what you did.
It does not say what happened when you did it.  As usual, showing actual
actions (commands) with their actual results (error messages, LED
indicators, ...) can be more helpful than vague descriptions or
interpretations.


> [...] Connecting a network switch to a router LAN port should simply
> work.

 

   Still true.  Especially for an unmanaged switch.

Message 9 of 14
jfklfjg
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Re: Can't use switch with Router

Router Mode is set to Yes.

 

I wasn't aware that every attempt to DHCP was captured in the logs. Also a lot of DoS attacks.

 

I do have an internet phone with a second ethernet jack. Should essentially be a switch. When I plug in something, no new entry appears in the logs.

 

I guess in order to debug this, I will have to go buy another switch.

 

Message 10 of 14
antinode
Guru

Re: Can't use switch with Router

> I do have an internet phone with a second ethernet jack. [...]

 

   Thanks for that detailed description, including the maker and model
number.

 

> [...] Should essentially be a switch. [...]

 

   Sure it should.  Says who?  Some unspecified non-switch which you
believe "Should essentially be a switch" is what we've been discussing
up to now?

 

> I guess in order to debug this, I will have to go buy another switch.

 

   Testing your "switch doesn't work" hypothesis might require you to
involve an actual switch in your testing, yes.  Duh?  Are you
_intentionally_ wasting everyone's time, or do you just not know any
better?

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jfklfjg
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Re: Can't use switch with Router

I do know your attitude isn't helpful. Duh.

 

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antinode
Guru

Re: Can't use switch with Router

> I do know your attitude isn't helpful. Duh.

 

   Like not answering (repeated) basic questions about the problem?

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Can't use switch with Router

Not sure what switches your using. Sounds like the ones you have are either faulty or you have bad cabling. Most any gateway modems only come with 4 LAN ports. Most modems you get support having a external LAN switch connected. From 5 ports all the way up to 48. Yours as well.

 

You might find a local computer shop to help out and see if they can help you get a proper Gb LAN switch connected. 

 

Good Luck.


@jfklfjg wrote:

I returned the last switch I tried, so at the moment I don't any switches, except for one mystery unit that totally unmarked. I would have to go buy another to do more experiments. I am leaning toward sending this cable modem to the recycler and buying another with more LAN ports.


 

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