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janpeter1
Feb 06, 2021Luminary
New USB external disk WD 8 TB does not connect
Hello, I have a 5 year old RND314 thajt works well and I have just bought a new WD My Book 8 TD external disk for backkup. Previousl I have WD 4 TB. The new externa disk I have tested with my Ma...
- Feb 06, 2021
The problem is that the NAS doesn't support exfat. https://kb.netgear.com/7009/ReadyNAS-OS-6-USB-Port-use
NTFS is the best option if you use a PC. Though I think with a Mac, you'd either need access to a Windows system, or get a third-party package that will let you do the formatting on a Mac.
janpeter1
Feb 08, 2021Luminary
Does this explain that my NAS314 when connected to the new external NAS (formattaded as EXFAT) do not boot? Your idea is that it looks for a key for booting on the external disk that is not there, and that is why it does not go forward?
StephenB
Feb 08, 2021Guru - Experienced User
If it doesn't find a service key, then it shouldn't try to boot off the drive.
Since you are using exfat is that the NAS can't mount the USB drive. Since we know that's a problem, I'd try fixing that first and see if the boot problem remains.
Are you using one of the USB 3 ports on the rear of the NAS, or the USB 2 port on the front? Also, is the USB drive using mains power, or are you drawing power from the USB port?
- janpeter1Feb 10, 2021Luminary
Hi,
I have had the same problem with both front (USB-2) and back (USB-3).
And the external drive get the power separately and not through USB.
Further I run the NAS and also the external USB on the same UPS,
but the UPS alarm (in case of power-failure) to the NAS is not connected.
The other day I managed to get the USB HD re-formatted with NTFS in the shop.
Then back at my home-office I reformatted to BTRFS and made backups of
different parts, mainly using the faster USB-3. Needed to re-configure the backup jobs.
Everytning seems fine and I have filled up about 4 GB, about half the disk.
Thanks for the help. The fact that the external USB did block reproducible booting
seems we may not understand.
Jan Peter
- janpeter1Feb 13, 2021Luminary
I actually run macOS but it can read NTFS disks.
However I run virtual machines with Windows 10 (and also one for Linux-Ubuntu).
Use VirtualBox. I think I can configure the VM Ubuntu to interact with a BTRFS disk,
but not done it yet. Understandt that you need to have ECC RAM to fully enjoy bit-rot protection.
But I guess some safety is better upheld with both NAS and external backup is BTRFS.
If you have som information here I would apprecite.
As you say it can be practical to have at least one backup with NTFS.
Usually I have two with different file systems. Today the other ist EXT4 but
also need av VM Ubunto to read it and some configuration to connect the VM
to the USB-disk.
I was surprised that the NAS also can write to NTFS - I have missed that.
No special draw-backs?
- schumakuFeb 13, 2021Guru - Experienced User
janpeter1 wrote:I was surprised that the NAS also can write to NTFS - I have missed that.
No special draw-backs?
It can also read NTFS again - just kidding.
The NTFS drivers on non-Windows NAS are mostly "read-all" and "write-all" - most NTFS security and access control is non-existent.
Restore does not bring back any special ownership, U**x masks, or ACLs back to the NAS.
- StephenBFeb 13, 2021Guru - Experienced User
janpeter1 wrote:
I was surprised that the NAS also can write to NTFS - I have missed that.
No special draw-backs?
I think the key point is that you need to be able to read your backup on at least one other machine. If you can read ext or btrfs, then it's fine to use those formats.
As far as file attributes and permissions go - I'd start with the question of what attributes matter to you. Then do a test backup or two, and see if those are preserved [or not]. Probably worth checking no matter what file system you pick.
Personally I back up to other ReadyNAS using rsync - which will preserve the file attributes. I don't have recent experience with backing up to USB disks.
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