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FURRYe38
Feb 25, 2019Guru - Experienced User
New - NetGear Orbi Firmware Version 2.3.0.32 now available...
FW 2.3.0.32 is now available on our support site :
https://www.netgear.com/support/product/RBK50.aspx#download
RBR/RBS 50 Series Only.
To manually update the firmware, there is a need to ...
gr8sho
Mar 03, 2019Virtuoso
I would interpret that situation as daisy chain. Under advanced tab —> advanced setup —> wireless settings, mine has that checked as a selection default.
orbilov
Mar 03, 2019Apprentice
Thanks... Looks like you are correct... From that features help screen...
Enable Daisy-Chain Topology
This feature allows Orbi Satellite to connect to other Orbi Satellites. This feature only applies if you have three or more Orbi. When you disable this feature, Orbi Satellites can only connect only to the Orbi Router. Enabling or disabling this feature causes all your Orbi to reboot.
Enable Fast Roaming
When you enable this feature, Orbi directs your client devices to the most optimal WiFi band quicker.
- Chuck_MMar 03, 2019Mentor
I am interested in testing this to see if you can mix topologies in one configuration.... As an example, one RBS reporting direct back to RBR50 while another RBS50 is a daisy chain to a third.
I presume you would set that daisy chain configuration in the RBS50's debug page?
- orbilovMar 03, 2019Apprentice
Its a single check box and i believe Orbi's firmware decides on the best communcation path among 3 or more devices.
- Chuck_MMar 03, 2019Mentor
But there is also a check box in the satellite.... so I am wondering if you can mix modes within a single architecture/.
- TC_in_MontanaMar 03, 2019Virtuoso
Chuck_M wrote:
But there is also a check box in the satellite.... so I am wondering if you can mix modes within a single architecture/.
I'm not sure you can override what is set on the router setup by checking/un-checking in the debug page on the satellite. I was looking at that yesterday, and tried to "uncheck" something on the debug page and it would not "uncheck". But, that was yesterday and I've slept since then so I may not have remembered correctly.
- gr8shoMar 03, 2019VirtuosoThe word “mesh” implies the satellite should connect to the most favorable peer. And the check shouldn’t need to be that frequent since the router and satellites would typically be in static locations.
- orbilovMar 03, 2019ApprenticeI would generally trust the firmware to do what is best. Note 2.3 update also had fixes for wired backhaul (which I believe chuck_M has in his set up). Of course if there is some issue we could review together.
On separate note i have no need at moment but i see rbs50s are frighteningly expensive around $250 when rbk53 with router and 2 rbs50 are around $319-$350. Literally could buy a 53 set and ebay all but one rbs and come out for much less. - FURRYe38Mar 03, 2019Guru - Experienced User
You can get some RBS's for around 200 or under:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01LZG4KPC/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
orbilov wrote:
I would generally trust the firmware to do what is best. Note 2.3 update also had fixes for wired backhaul (which I believe chuck_M has in his set up). Of course if there is some issue we could review together.
On separate note i have no need at moment but i see rbs50s are frighteningly expensive around $250 when rbk53 with router and 2 rbs50 are around $319-$350. Literally could buy a 53 set and ebay all but one rbs and come out for much less. - orbilovMar 03, 2019Apprentice
Thanks, checked the link... That's for used , new start around 239 + shipping at best, luckily I do not need any:) Makes me appreciate the RBK53 bundle all the more.... $319.99 at Costco though not that much more elsewhere.
- FURRYe38Mar 03, 2019Guru - Experienced User
Well this gives options though to those who have a need.
Is good to have the KITs available though. :smileywink:
- walkerxMar 04, 2019Guide
I've got my replacement orbi's (now more expensive than when I originally got them)
Set them up (bit of a pain) but not on the latest firmware yet.
If I update to the latest firmware, will I need to move the units so they are all next to each other again?
In an earlier post it said to enable daisy chain backhaul, but I was advised to disable this and using ethernet backhaul?
I'm going to be moving one satellite to a position which will mean no longer ethernet backhaul, should this get updated prior to moving and will i still need daisy chain backhaul off?
- FURRYe38Mar 04, 2019Guru - Experienced User
If you have a laptop with a ethernet connection, it would be recommended to load the FW files on the laptop, then walk around with the laptop and connect directly to the back of each satellite and update them manually that way. If the the satellites are in good range and have GOOD signal, then you can attempt to update them via wireless. Update the satellites first, then update the RBR last. You have to get v212 loaded on the RBR then load v32.
If you have the satellites wire connected, daisy chain should be disabled. Also if you have them wire connected then just update them thru there wired connection. You could connect all the satellites up in the same room while you get everything updated, then place them at there remote locations.
Just suggestions for you to try.
walkerx wrote:
I've got my replacement orbi's (now more expensive than when I originally got them)
Set them up (bit of a pain) but not on the latest firmware yet.
If I update to the latest firmware, will I need to move the units so they are all next to each other again?
In an earlier post it said to enable daisy chain backhaul, but I was advised to disable this and using ethernet backhaul?
I'm going to be moving one satellite to a position which will mean no longer ethernet backhaul, should this get updated prior to moving and will i still need daisy chain backhaul off?
- Damit1Mar 04, 2019Apprentice
Done some major tests.
WIFI is dropped by 50% at all.
Facroty reset and everything.
Now Wifi works as WIFI and gives 50%, but supposed to be more than that, both WIFI and not AP mode :manlol:
- FURRYe38Mar 04, 2019Guru - Experienced User
I would revert back to v210 and see if the speed comes back.
Damit1 wrote:
Done some major tests.
WIFI is dropped by 50% at all.
Facroty reset and everything.
Now Wifi works as WIFI and gives 50%, but supposed to be more than that, both WIFI and not AP mode :manlol:
- Damit1Mar 04, 2019Apprentice
I will stop the auto update, and in 24h it will re-update as I belive it out now as latest version.
Is not it?
- orbilovMar 04, 2019ApprenticeI did not see any performance differences at my further locations between 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3.
Do note as i am sure your aware it is possible other factors are in play:
Competing neighbor wifi or other things using same spectrum. 5ghz usually better then 2.4. Microwave ovans while running (seriously).
Also note there is an interactive effect in handshake between computer and
AP/router. Generally a connection will start at speed with x interference % and then throttle up connection speed over the course of a few minutes. There is also variability. If you were to bring your device to location A and B 10 times you will see different connection speeds and interpherence numbers.. if your testing file Copies or other actual performance metrics this may be a more practical test.
I posit an example that Cellular strangth bars are not soley indiictive or call quality, or internet browsing speed on sites you regularly visit. In fact at times carrier and phone manufacturers have tinkered with revissions with same hardware how many bars equal s X strength.
I would be most focused on actual performance difference s and stability.
Good Luck.