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simplex1
Feb 01, 2017Aspirant
Does an WNDR3400 work as an wi-fi repeater if the security of the main router is set to WPA2-PSK (AE
Does an WNDR3400 work as an wi-fi repeater if the security of the main router is set to WPA2-PSK (AES)? I have an WNDR3400|N600 router which I want to use as a Wi-Fi repeater. Can I do it for th...
- Feb 02, 2017
simplex1 wrote:
The question is, what security is this (WEP or None), is it between me and the WNDR3400v1, is it between the WNDR3400v1 and the main router, or simply the security for both connections has to be set to WEP or None
The entire wifi network needs to be either WEP or none. WEP was cracked long ago, so it is not secure.
michaelkenward
Feb 03, 2017Guru - Experienced User
The bit that threw me, and the prompt for my reply, was the "over power adaptor".
What the heck is that?
I have heard of, and used, power-over-LAN. (Before LAN-over-power appeared.) Is that what it means.
But if you read the Netgear rubric on LAN-over-power, it may work over 3-phase power.
William10a
Feb 03, 2017Master
I meant to say lan over power phrase one to ground will give you a 120 to 125 volts phrase two will the same but the thrid phrase will not in the us on 480 three phrease. A lan cable would be better uo use if you can it and your length is 100 meters or less (330 feet or less).If your lucky you many have acat5 running in a wall already for telephone jack wiring if you ae not going to use the jack may be able find and to use the cable to link the areas where you want the access point.
- michaelkenwardFeb 04, 2017Guru - Experienced User
Forgive me for continuing to be baffled. When you write:
William10a wrote:I meant to say lan over power phrase one to ground will give you a 120 to 125 volts phrase two will the same but the thrid phrase will not in the us on 480 three phrease.
Do you mean:
"I meant to say LAN over power.
"Phase one to ground will give you a 120 to 125 volts.
"Phase two will the same but in the us on 480-volt three-phase the third phase will not."
I still do not understand it, I am not an electrician. But the way it was written probably made it harder for me to get anywhere.
I mention this because simplex1 may be as baffled as I was. They ,may also wonder why anyone started talking about mains supply. They didn't raise it. So, without more details, this is all theorising
- William10aFeb 04, 2017Master
The bit that threw me, and the prompt for my reply, was the "over power adaptor".
What the heck is that?
I have heard of, and used, power-over-LAN. (Before LAN-over-power appeared.) Is that what it means.
But if you read the Netgear rubric on LAN-over-power, it may work over 3-phase power.
I meant to say lan over power phrase one to ground will give you a 120 to 125 volts phrase two will the same but the thrid phrase will not in the us on 480 three phase the vacuum pumps we used were 3 phrease 480 volts, and the 120 and 240 all off the main breaker box.
A cat5 or 6 cable is the best answer if a dropped ceiling would be great too allowing a over head run.
- simplex1Feb 04, 2017Aspirant
1) Unfortunately, there is no serious possibility to run a cable from the main router to the WNDR3400v1. It would be too complicated.
2) The main router and the WNDR3400v1 are in two different partitions of the building which have different numbers. I am not sure I can use Power Line Communication.
3) I connected the WNDR3400v1 by cable to an WN3000PR Universal WiFi Range Extender (the security is WPA2 for this extender) that is connected by Wi-Fi to the main router. Like this the WNDR3400v1 works but it is of little use as long as I can use the WN3000PR alone. - William10aFeb 04, 2017Master
1) Unfortunately, there is no serious possibility to run a cable from the main router to the WNDR3400v1. It would be too complicated.
2) The main router and the WNDR3400v1 are in two different buildings. I am not sure I can use Power Line Communication.
3) I connected the WNDR3400v1 by cable to an WN3000PR Universal WiFi Range Extender (the security is WPA2 for this extender) that is connected by Wi-Fi to the main router. Like this the WNDR3400v1 works but it is of little use as long as I can use the WN3000PR alone.Does the router you want to repeat from have external antennas?
Since there are two buildings you could feed the wifi with directional antennas face to face one on each building mounted on the outside.
The building that needs the wifi would need a wireless repeater that allow a extremal antenna connection.
What router is your main router.
- William10aFeb 04, 2017Master
Here's a company that may have your answer they http://www.ccrane.com/Xtreme-15-WiFi-Repeater-System
- michaelkenwardFeb 04, 2017Guru - Experienced User
William10a, is there any chance that you can do something about posting messages that make it easier to know which bits you are quoting and which bits are your replies?
It is impossible to tell where the join is in your latest message.
Try this:
- Reply
- Hit Quote
- Write your reply.
- Post.
- William10aFeb 04, 2017Master
The main router and the WNDR3400v1 are in two different buildings. I am not sure I can use Power Line Communication.
Here's a company that may have your answer they http://www.ccrane.com/Xtreme-15-WiFi-Repeater-System
here is a system that offers a possible way of connecting two remote locations with wifi from one building to another building directional antennas forming a wifi repeater using external antennas mounted outside or intertnal antennas inside thought this fits the needs of the poster. They can still use their main router they have. it should work like a cell tower relaying the signal from one place to another place if a clear line of sight for the antennas.
I know it is outside the box idea but is a real world answer for his problem.
- William10aFeb 04, 2017Master
I'am sorry that I may seem like some of my question do not may sense But I like to be able see in my mind the picture of the issue and be able to break it down in to parts. It is easier to remove the parts of the problem then you can divide the problem into half's. The reason I even posted the information the remote link the wifi signals they want in building from a different building makes there are two separate buildings and no way to run a cat 5 or 6 cable or use powered lan is out because of different power feeds.
- StephenBFeb 04, 2017Guru - Experienced User
William10a wrote:
I'am sorry that I may seem like some of my question do not may sense
I think Michael is just asking you to use quotes (or some form of punctuation) around the text you copy/paste. That would make it easier to follow some of your responses.
- StephenBFeb 04, 2017Guru - Experienced User
simplex1 wrote:
3) I connected the WNDR3400v1 by cable to an WN3000PR Universal WiFi Range Extender (the security is WPA2 for this extender) that is connected by Wi-Fi to the main router. Like this the WNDR3400v1 works but it is of little use as long as I can use the WN3000PR alone.Yes. The WNDR3400 isn't very useful for what you are wanting to do, given the constraints you have.
If you had ethernet running to it from the main network, you could use is as an AP, But you don't.
- William10aFeb 04, 2017Master
{ The main router and the WNDR3400v1 are in two different partitions of the building which have different numbers. I am not sure I can use Power Line Communication.}
Is the main router next door to where you want use the wndr3400 and is the partition a firewall ?
It may be possible run the lan cable in a small hole and seal with a fire rated sealant normally red in color.
The current building code is when have to pass a wire from the top of a wall to air seal any air flow.
The fire rating of most firewalls is one hour
- simplex1Feb 04, 2017Aspirant
For unknown reasons the WN3000PR, I tested, can not connect from 3 meters away to two iPads, the last one bought in 2016.
With the help of WNDR3400v1, linked by cable to the WN3000PR, the iPads can connect now from many meters away (to the WNDR3400v1).(Main router)...........................(Repeater)
ASUS RT-N600--------(wi-fi, WPA2)-------WN3000PR-------(Cable)-------WNDR3400v1--------(wi-fi, WPA2)
In consequence, even if for most computers, in the second partition of the building, the WNDR3400v1 will be of little use, because most of the people will directly use the WN3000PR, for the two iPads the WNDR3400v1 helps. I would have liked to make it work alone, without any WN3000PR, but I will go like this even if the configuration is a bit complicated. Also, it appears that the WNDR3400v1 offers better coverage than the WN3000PR.
- William10aFeb 04, 2017Master
I hate to say it dd-wrt will work on the wndr3400v1 and offers repaeter and wifi repeater modes and wpa2 with aes because easy to over power the radios on wndr3400v1 if set the tx power other then autoIf interested I have the dd-wrt firmware firmware number or a copy on a computer.
I know this a netgear community netgear should have these opions too since it is firmware and the v1 version of the wndr3400 is no longer supported it's a end of life product.
- simplex1Feb 04, 2017Aspirant
William10a wrote:
dd-wrt will work on the wndr3400v1 and offers repaeter and wifi repeater modes and wpa2 with aes ...If you have such a firmware and you know for sure it works with an wndr3400v1 then direct me to a location on the net from where I can download that dd-wrt. Anyway, I will do it only if I am sure that I can reinstall the original firmware, if the new software does not work, because I do not want to brick the wndr3400v1.
- michaelkenwardFeb 05, 2017Guru - Experienced User
StephenB wrote:
William10a wrote:I'am sorry that I may seem like some of my question do not may sense
I think Michael is just asking you to use quotes (or some form of punctuation) around the text you copy/paste.
Yes.
And please do not post a reply, edit it and post it again and again and again.
- StephenBFeb 05, 2017Guru - Experienced User
simplex1 wrote:
For unknown reasons the WN3000PR, I tested, can not connect from 3 meters away to two iPads, the last one bought in 2016.
With the help of WNDR3400v1, linked by cable to the WN3000PR, the iPads can connect now from many meters away (to the WNDR3400v1)....I would have liked to make it work alone, without any WN3000PR, but I will go like this even if the configuration is a bit complicated. Also, it appears that the WNDR3400v1 offers better coverage than the WN3000PR.
It is an odd issue with the iPads, but if the WN3000PR+WNDR3400v1 combo solves it, then I agree you can just go with it.
William10a wrote:
dd-wrt will work on the wndr3400v1 and offers repeater and wifi repeater modes and wpa2 with aes because easy to over power the radios on wndr3400v1 if set the tx power other then auto. If interested I have the dd-wrt firmware firmware number or a copy on a computer.
dd-wrt (open source firmware) would give you more options than the stock Netgear firmware, so if you want to play around with this solution some more, then it's an avenue you could explore.
- simplex1Feb 05, 2017Aspirant
Regarding the dd-wrt and WNDR3400v1, I have just found this page:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Netgear_WNDR3400
DD-WRT can brick the WNDR3400v1 and if this happens it is not clear for me, after reading the instructions at the above mentioned link, whether WNDR3400v1 can be saved, by reverting it to its old firmware, or not.
In consequence, I will prefer to keep it as it is. - William10aFeb 05, 2017Master
I let a friend use a extra one when I get it back you can try it if you want it has the dd-wrt firmware on it?
It would look nothing like a normal wndr3400 it has four external 6 db antenna and a 20 mm cooling fan on top to try.