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adamsky
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Dec 19, 2018
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Best setup for 1Gbit/s FTTH PPPoE, FRITZ!Box 4040 and Orbi RBK53

I just received my new Orbi RBK53. Can I get some advise how to optimally implement these beauties in my setup. So what's the best option for my 1Gbit/s FTTH (PPPoE), FRITZ!Box 4040 and Orbi RBK53:

 

1. FRITZ!Box 4040 modem/router (disabled WiFi) + RBR50 as AP

 

2. RBR50 directly to ONT (I've PPPoE details)

 

3. FRITZ!Box 4040 bridge/modem mode + RBR50 as router

 

What's the best option for approx 30-40 connected devices and local streaming from sat. box to pc/laptops? 

  • Frankly, I'd go with a different option, get a good wired router to pair with the Orbi as an AP.  The Orbi and Fritz both excel with wifi, not routing. 

     

    From your choices, I'd go with #1, the Fritz has got to have better routing than the Orbi.  #2 and #3 involve using the Orbi as a router, it might work, but this board is filled with people complaining about Orbi in routing mode, very few complain with it in AP mode.  

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  • Things to consider are:

    1. Router features: Decide which router will give you the features that you need: Orbi or the FRITZ!Box 4040. The device that you will chose as router will decide the routing functionality that you will get. Features like VPN, DDNS, UPnP

    2. The less units you use is always better to optimize speed, so if I was to choose I will go for option 2 in your list in this aspect.

  • Frankly, I'd go with a different option, get a good wired router to pair with the Orbi as an AP.  The Orbi and Fritz both excel with wifi, not routing. 

     

    From your choices, I'd go with #1, the Fritz has got to have better routing than the Orbi.  #2 and #3 involve using the Orbi as a router, it might work, but this board is filled with people complaining about Orbi in routing mode, very few complain with it in AP mode.  

  • Thanks guys for your prompt replies on this. Well "less devices" also means "all in one" in this case which from my exp. It's not always the best option. I think I'll try to find some better wired router and pair it with Orbi RBR50.

    • FURRYe38's avatar
      FURRYe38
      Guru

      So let us know what you needed up with. Were all curious. 

       

      :smileywink:


      adamsky wrote:

      Thanks guys for your prompt replies on this. Well "less devices" also means "all in one" in this case which from my exp. It's not always the best option. I think I'll try to find some better wired router and pair it with Orbi RBR50.


       

      • adamsky's avatar
        adamsky
        Aspirant

        Hi FURRYe38, I'm fine with the Ragar99 answer and also agree with his other comments. 

        So far I'm enjoying the Orbi performance, around 400 Mbps in each corner in my house on WiFii ONLY. It's better than I was expecting and saved me from drilling holes through walls, ceiling, wiring, etc. ...happy ;)

  • Modem Combo Units:
    Couple of options,
    1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
    2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
    3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop

    • Ragar99's avatar
      Ragar99
      Luminary

      Furry, what the heck?  Do you have some kind of macro that searches for key words and auto replies that Modem Combo spiel of yours?  


      • Ragar99 wrote:

        Do you have some kind of macro that searches for key words and auto replies that Modem Combo spiel of yours?  

         


        It is called experience and knowing that most problems posted here come down to a handful of issues.

         

        The "two routers on a network" one is far too common. The answer is pretty standard and does not depend on the hardware.

         

        People like FURRYe38 are perfectly capable of writing "macros" using the forum software. Here's one of mine:

         

        Two routers on your network can cause headaches. For example, you can end up with competing DHCP servers and local address conflicts. To avoid that you may need to set the routers up with the right DHCP and IP address settings.

        Unless you have specific reasons for using two routers, to create two separate networks for example, it is usually easier to use just one router and then to set up the second router as a wifi access point. Netgear advises this, as does just about every site you will visit.