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BraveDaveNYC's avatar
Oct 29, 2020

Connect three Orbis in-line

Hi folks,

 

I have RBR50 router and RBS40 satellite. They work ok, but are a bit too far apart.

So I'm adding an RBW30 in between.

 

How do I create a daisy-chain where:

RBS40 satellite >>connects to>> (new)RBW30 mini satellite >>connects to>> RBR50 router

 

They seem to insist on the two satellites connecting to the router (hub and spoke-like).

 

How can I force my desired connections?

 

Thanks

 

 

9 Replies

  • CrimpOn's avatar
    CrimpOn
    Guru - Experienced User

    BraveDaveNYC wrote:

    I have RBR50 router and RBS40 satellite. They work ok, but are a bit too far apart.

    So I'm adding an RBW30 in between.

    How do I create a daisy-chain where:

    RBS40 satellite >>connects to>> (new)RBW30 mini satellite >>connects to>> RBR50 router

     

    They seem to insist on the two satellites connecting to the router (hub and spoke-like).


    There is no simple mechanism to force an Orbi satellite to connect to a specific device. (Just as there is no mechanism to force a WiFi device to connect to a particular Orbi unit.)

     

    One requirement is that "Daisy Chain" must be enabled on the Orbi web interface, Advanced Tab, Advanced Setup, Wireless Settings (about 2/3 down the page).  This is the default setting, so it may already be set.

     

    My guess is that the RBS40 "remembers" being connected directly to the router.  I would delete the RBS40.  Make sure that the RBW30 is working correctly and then "add" the RBS40 again.

    • BraveDaveNYC's avatar
      BraveDaveNYC
      Tutor

      CrimpOn 

        
      Thanks.

      That's a very sensible solution. But alas, it hasn't worked.


      I depowered the RBW40, and removed it from the Attached Devices (which properly showed it as "Disconnected"). Upon repowering the satellite, it goes through it's pulsing-white startup, then off completely. Then the ring turns blue. Connected?!?! Refreshing the Attached Devices configuration again shows that the satellite reconnected to the RBW50 router.

       

      So... I factory-reset the RBW40 satellite. Forget that router, Orbi satellite! Then powered it up. And it still connects to the RBW50 router! I've attempted this three times -- same result. WTF?!?!


      BTW... Enable Daisy-Chain Topology was and is still enabled.

       

      Thoughts?

       

      (Thanks also, FURRYe38 @ DeanB1452 )

      • CrimpOn's avatar
        CrimpOn
        Guru - Experienced User

        BraveDaveNYC wrote:

        So... I factory-reset the RBW40 satellite. Forget that router, Orbi satellite! Then powered it up. And it still connects to the RBW50 router! I've attempted this three times -- same result. WTF?!?!

        BTW... Enable Daisy-Chain Topology was and is still enabled.


        There may be a discrepency between "They work ok, but are a bit too far apart".  As FURRYe38 commented, the Orbi will decide which configuration it prefers.  One technique that I often employ is to look at the actual backhaul status between router and satellite.

         

        Activate Telnet on the Orbi Router.
            Connect to the Orbi debug page: http://orbilogin.net/debug.htm
            Check the box "Enable Telnet"
        Open a telnet program and connect to the router.
            (Windows has a telnet program that can be enabled from the Control Panel: "Programs and Features"
            It is a "feature" on the left hand side
            I personally use the free PuTTY program because I telnet to several computers on my LAN and PuTTY
            allows me to define each of them and connect simply by clicking on their name.)

        Log into the router using the regular admin credentials: "admin" and password.

        Type the command: satelliteinfo wifi

        This is how my two satellites show up:

        root@RBR50:/# satelliteinfo wifi
        {
        "mac address" : "A0:04:60:xx:xx:xx",
        "hop" : "1",
        "bridge mac" : "A0:04:xx:xx:xx:xx",
        "backhaul conntype" : "5GHz",
        "backhaul rssi" : "-68",
        "backhaul macaddress" : "A0:04:60:xx:xx:xx",
        "backhaul phytxrate" : "780",
        "backhaul phyrxrate" : "780",
        "backhaul parentmac" : "A0:04:60:xx:xx:xx"
        },
        {
        "mac address" : "14:59:C0:xx:xx:xx",
        "hop" : "1",
        "bridge mac" : "14:59:C0:xx:xx:xx",
        "backhaul conntype" : "5GHz",
        "backhaul rssi" : "-59",
        "backhaul macaddress" : "",
        "backhaul phytxrate" : "866",
        "backhaul phyrxrate" : "650",
        "backhaul parentmac" : "A0:04:60:xx:xx:xx"
        }

        Would be interesting to see what Orbi reports about your two satellites.

  • Log into your router through the web interface and go to wireless settings in advanced setup.  You should see a box in backhaul topology to enable daisy-chain topology.  Your router will choose the best option based on signal strength and may daisy-chain or connect to each one directly.