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Avohai
Mar 20, 2020Tutor
Huge WiFi speed drops with Orbi RBK53
Hi All,
Since the past weeks I've noticed low WiFi performance of my devices (PC and Mac laptops, Iphones) of my Orbi RBS53 (Triband, router + two satellites). My configuration:
ISP fiber 1Gbps-> Orbi router is wired (CAT 5e) to each of the satellites located in separate rooms at least 40 feet apart.
When connecting devices directly to the satellites via ethernet cable, I get download speeds ~ 500 Mbps (OK). Using the same devices nearby (same room) as each of the satellites, I get WiFi speeds ~ 250 Mbps (OK but huge dropping if you are just standing besides the satellite?). As soon as I walk to next adjacent room (10 feet away), the same device gets WiFi speeds ~ 40 Mbps, which is a huge drop.
I have had my Orbi since Christmas but I noticed the problem becoming worse since the past month or so. I am running the latest firmware.
I know this is not normal because I could get better WiFi speeds in the same rooms with my previous (non mesh) router from Linksys which was 4 years old.
For the price I paid for my Orbi, I was expecting way better performance.
Is anybody experiencing similar issues?
Thanks!
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- Retired_Member
What is your FW version number?
- AvohaiTutor
Hi,
FW version is 2.5.1.8.
Thanks.
Please give feeback for the rest of the questions when you can.
Thank you.
What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected. https://kb.netgear.com/000036466/How-far-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite-from-my-Orbi-routerWhat channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?Try enabling Beamforming and MIMO(MIMO may or maynot be needed) and WMM. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings
Try disabling the following and see:
Armor, Circle, Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Set Short preamble instead of Long preamble modes. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update?
Avohai wrote:Hi All,
Since the past weeks I've noticed low WiFi performance of my devices (PC and Mac laptops, Iphones) of my Orbi RBS53 (Triband, router + two satellites). My configuration:
ISP fiber 1Gbps-> Orbi router is wired (CAT 5e) to each of the satellites located in separate rooms at least 40 feet apart.
When connecting devices directly to the satellites via ethernet cable, I get download speeds ~ 500 Mbps (OK). Using the same devices nearby (same room) as each of the satellites, I get WiFi speeds ~ 250 Mbps (OK but huge dropping if you are just standing besides the satellite?). As soon as I walk to next adjacent room (10 feet away), the same device gets WiFi speeds ~ 40 Mbps, which is a huge drop.
I have had my Orbi since Christmas but I noticed the problem becoming worse since the past month or so. I am running the latest firmware.
I know this is not normal because I could get better WiFi speeds in the same rooms with my previous (non mesh) router from Linksys which was 4 years old.
For the price I paid for my Orbi, I was expecting way better performance.
Is anybody experiencing similar issues?
Thanks!
- AvohaiTutor
Hi, thanks. Response in * to your questions below:
FURRYe38 wrote:What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?
* Mfr: DZS (DAZAN Zhone solutions)
* Model: ZNID-GPON-2424A1-NA rev.F1
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What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?* 2400 sqft
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected. https://kb.netgear.com/000036466/How-far-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite-from-my-Orbi-router* One satellite is 30 ft from the router, the second one is about 40 feet.
What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
* Auto
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?* Two
Try enabling Beamforming and MIMO(MIMO may or maynot be needed) and WMM. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings
* WMM is enabled. I will try enabling Beamforming and MIMO/MIMO.
Try disabling the following and see:
Armor, Circle, Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Set Short preamble instead of Long preamble modes. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).* All above already disable. Preamble mode is in auto.
Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update?
* Yes.
Avohai wrote:Hi All,
Since the past weeks I've noticed low WiFi performance of my devices (PC and Mac laptops, Iphones) of my Orbi RBS53 (Triband, router + two satellites). My configuration:
ISP fiber 1Gbps-> Orbi router is wired (CAT 5e) to each of the satellites located in separate rooms at least 40 feet apart.
When connecting devices directly to the satellites via ethernet cable, I get download speeds ~ 500 Mbps (OK). Using the same devices nearby (same room) as each of the satellites, I get WiFi speeds ~ 250 Mbps (OK but huge dropping if you are just standing besides the satellite?). As soon as I walk to next adjacent room (10 feet away), the same device gets WiFi speeds ~ 40 Mbps, which is a huge drop.
I have had my Orbi since Christmas but I noticed the problem becoming worse since the past month or so. I am running the latest firmware.
I know this is not normal because I could get better WiFi speeds in the same rooms with my previous (non mesh) router from Linksys which was 4 years old.
For the price I paid for my Orbi, I was expecting way better performance.
Is anybody experiencing similar issues?
Thanks!
Try setting a manual channel. Be sure to select either 1, 6 or 11 and any not used by your two nieghbors.
As a test, turn OFF the RBSs. Do you still see speeds drops with just the RBR running?
HOw is your ONT confured? I may have a built in wifi and router:
https://dasanzhone.com/product/znid-gpon-2400a1-series/
IF so, This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended and would be a cause of problems. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktopv2.5.1.8 working well for me. Been solid since last year.
- theoakLuminary
Avohai wrote:Hi All,
Since the past weeks I've noticed low WiFi performance of my devices (PC and Mac laptops, Iphones) of my Orbi RBS53 (Triband, router + two satellites). My configuration:
ISP fiber 1Gbps-> Orbi router is wired (CAT 5e) to each of the satellites located in separate rooms at least 40 feet apart.
When connecting devices directly to the satellites via ethernet cable, I get download speeds ~ 500 Mbps (OK). Using the same devices nearby (same room) as each of the satellites, I get WiFi speeds ~ 250 Mbps (OK but huge dropping if you are just standing besides the satellite?). As soon as I walk to next adjacent room (10 feet away), the same device gets WiFi speeds ~ 40 Mbps, which is a huge drop.
I have had my Orbi since Christmas but I noticed the problem becoming worse since the past month or so. I am running the latest firmware.
I know this is not normal because I could get better WiFi speeds in the same rooms with my previous (non mesh) router from Linksys which was 4 years old.
For the price I paid for my Orbi, I was expecting way better performance.
Is anybody experiencing similar issues?
Thanks!
With wired backhaul, you should get pretty close to your ISP speed for your wired connections. Can you validate the ports used for the backhaul. Netgear instructions here .
- AvohaiTutor
Latest update: still unresolved.
Netgear customer support gave me some instructions that did not help at all. In the latest e-mail, they asked me to complain to my internet service provider to solve the problem with my Orbi. LOL...
This is the situation:
Laptop wired directly (ethernet cable) to the fiber company modem: 800 Mbps
Laptop wired directly to an ethernet port of the Orbi router which is wired to the fiber company modem: 720 Mbps (ok).
Laptop on 5G WiFi from the router one feet away from the router in the same room: 300 Mpbs (more than 50% drop).
Laptop on 5G WiFi 15 away from the router in the adjacent room (no other network device in the same room): 30 Mpbs (that is more than 10 times drop).
Yes, following Netgear's support, I have set a separate channel for the 2.4 and 5 GHz channels (not auto), enabled Beam Forming and Fast Roaming, etc.
I have had this Orbi for 3 months.
Not being able to return it any longer, it is going to the trash and I am going to look for another mesh router. Recommendations are welcome but Netgear never anymore.
- Retired_Member
Avohai wrote:Latest update: still unresolved.
Netgear customer support gave me some instructions that did not help at all. In the latest e-mail, they asked me to complain to my internet service provider to solve the problem with my Orbi. LOL...
This is the situation:
Laptop wired directly (ethernet cable) to the fiber company modem: 800 Mbps
Laptop wired directly to an ethernet port of the Orbi router which is wired to the fiber company modem: 720 Mbps (ok).
Laptop on 5G WiFi from the router one feet away from the router in the same room: 300 Mpbs (more than 50% drop).
Laptop on 5G WiFi 15 away from the router in the adjacent room (no other network device in the same room): 30 Mpbs (that is more than 10 times drop).
Yes, following Netgear's support, I have set a separate channel for the 2.4 and 5 GHz channels (not auto), enabled Beam Forming and Fast Roaming, etc.
I have had this Orbi for 3 months.
Not being able to return it any longer, it is going to the trash and I am going to look for another mesh router. Recommendations are welcome but Netgear never anymore.
unless you've addressed your firmware...your answer is here Message 8 of 16