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piemmm's avatar
piemmm
Aspirant
Aug 04, 2021

Insecure WiFi on Orbi RBR850 when WPA2 enabled

Hello!

 

Has anyone noticed that the Orbi creates an unencrypted WiFi network (as well as an encrypted one with the same name, and you only get to see the encrypted one on most phones)?

 

My configuration:

 

RBR + RBS850

Latest firmware from the site today (and the previous firmwares do this)

AP Mode or router mode

WPA2 enabled (not 3) with password.

 

Reboot - you get 2 networks on 5g, one encrypted and not encrypted on the satellites. Logged into the sattelite web interface to confirm it (and logging in passwordless on my devices as well. Shocking).

 

This is absolutely not what I expected for the price. The worst thing is it doesn't even tell you it's doing it - I only caught this because it flashed up briefly after a rebbot on my phone before being de-duplicated with the encrypted one - at that time I checked, and was able to join unencrypted with another device.

 

Comments netgear?

 

7 Replies

  • Netgear has set up a community forum specifically for the Orbi AX (WiFi 6) products. Most of the people who watch that forum are more likely to have experience with Orbi AX and know how to work it better than those of us who follow this "general Orbi" forum. Might be more likely to find someone who has a solution if the question is posted there:
    https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-AX/bd-p/en-home-orbi-ax

    Thank you.


  • piemmm wrote:

    Has anyone noticed that the Orbi creates an unencrypted WiFi network (as well as an encrypted one with the same name, and you only get to see the encrypted one on most phones)?

     

    Reboot - you get 2 networks on 5g, one encrypted and not encrypted on the satellites. Logged into the sattelite web interface to confirm it (and logging in passwordless on my devices as well. Shocking).

     

    Comments netgear?


    Interesting that WPA2-WPA3-MIXED does not appear in the User Manual.  Is it a choice in the WiFi setup?

     

    Does a WiFi analyzer program show both the secure and unsecure 5G WiFi Access Point radios on the router and satellites?

    (I use WiFi Analyzer by Kevin Yuan on Android and WiFi Info View by nirsoft on Windows. Each AP has a unique MAC address for the 2.4G and 5G radios, so there should be three 2.4G entries and three 5G entries for SSID H-LOUNGE-5. And, they should all have a 'lock' symbol.)

    • FURRYe38's avatar
      FURRYe38
      Guru

      Mixed WPA mode is not supported on Orbi AX systems. Was initially but then it was removed. Too many problems with WPA3. 

      • CrimpOn's avatar
        CrimpOn
        Guru

        FURRYe38 wrote:

        Mixed WPA mode is not supported on Orbi AX systems. Was initially but then it was removed. Too many problems with WPA3. 


        That's why I was confused to see that on the attached image.  I have never seen a WiFi system with security that will allow a device to connect with no password at all.  Your AX Orbi doesn't do this, does it?