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BillYoung
Luminary
Mar 10, 2019
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Primary Network drops, but the Guest Network doesn't

Furrye38 or to whomever can answer this:

 

Ever since I upgraded my firmware from 2.2.1.210 to 2.2.1.212 to 2.3.0.32, my Primary Network has become unstable.  It drops connections to the internet regularly.

 

However, if I connect to my Guest Network, my connections to the internet do not drop.

 

I have not tried doing anything special to the router after upgrading.  Should I have done something to the router like say rebooting, or resyncing?

 

Thanks in advance for your prompt response.

 

  • Wow, something isn't right.

    What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?

    When you had the Orbi online and working before, what mode was the modem in? Bridged? 

     

    You can do this while the ORbi is OFF line from the modem. Download v212 and v32 file to a wired PC. Don't connect the RBR to the modem just yet. 

     

    Use a wired PC with the RBR. Re-Send the v212 file first using the RBRs web page manual FW update UI. I would use IE11 or FF browsers for this. After v212 is applied, turn around and send the v32 file to the RBR using same process. After it's applied, use the routers web page to ERASE (factory reset) the RBR. Keep the wired PC connected. Don't connect the RBR to the modem just yet. 

     

    With the web browser, log in to orbiligin.com and instead of walking thru the setup wizard, skip it. You'll still need to give a PW and recovery info. Do this. 

     

    When you get to the main page of the Orbi, navigate to wireless settings and setup a SSID name and PW, give a different SSID name from what your using on the modem. This will be just temporary. Save settings. Don't enable Guest Network. 

    Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
    Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?


    Look at a mobile device and check to see if this new SSID appears on the mobile device. If so, connect to this SSID. Check to see if you get a IP address on the device as well. 

    Guest Network should not appear. 

     

    If you can get this far, you can configure the Orbi for AP mode and connect it up to the ISP Modem. Besure to DISABLE ALL wifi radios on the ISP modem. Leave the modem in router mode, not bridged. Run the Orbi for a while to see if the wifi SSID remains and that you don't see it drop off. 


    BillYoung wrote:
    FURRYe38: Sorry to inform you this, but doing what you said has totally wrecked my Orbi network. Now it allows you to access the Router, but not the Internet. I tried to fix the problem several times, but it keeps giving me the same thing - it tells me that my modem was not rebooted during the process (which it has been now several times) or that the cables are plugged into the wrong place or not plugged in well enough (neither is the case; the cables are in the right place and are plugged in all the way). So I tried downgrading the firmware to 2.2.1.212. Successfully done, But no improvement in the situation. The network still tells me the same information. At that point, I have removed the Orbi from my system, and turned my modem into a modem/router combo. Now I can access the internet to tell you what has been happening. It will be a couple of days to get back to trying to fix the Orbi. So, should I: a. Downgrade the firmware to 2.2.1.210 b. Upgrade the firmware again to 2.3.0.24 and see what further instructions await. Please let me know what to try next. I am at a loss.

     

     

     

     

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  • skrangel's avatar
    skrangel
    Aspirant

    Thanks StephenB!

     

    The resolution is perhaps slightly advanced to me, but I will go for it if I need to. Are there any risks with doing this, such as bricking the NAS or risking the data on the discs?

     

    There has been some development since yesterday. After one more power off and reboot of the NAS it worked fine to install another application, the Plex Media Server. But it is the iDrive application I want to install and use.

     

    I learnt from iDrive support that iDrive needs PHP5+ and browser functionality from the NAS. 

    With this new information, is the suggested solution still my best option?

    Btw, is this normal for ReadyNAS with this OS or did something happen to my NAS?

     

    skrangel

     

      

    • StephenB's avatar
      StephenB
      Guru - Experienced User

      skrangel wrote:

       

      Btw, is this normal for ReadyNAS with this OS or did something happen to my NAS?

        


      This affects all ReadyNAS that run OS-6.  OS-6 uses Debian 8 Linux (Jessie).  That is quite old (the current stable release is Debian 12), and the Debian community archived it a few months ago.  So they moved the various repositories (including the various Debian libraries) to the archive.  One of the files (sources.list) has the new locations.  The other changes (apt.conf) allows libraries to be downloaded insecurely (also required due to the Debian archival).

       


      skrangel wrote:

       

      There has been some development since yesterday. After one more power off and reboot of the NAS it worked fine to install another application, the Plex Media Server. But it is the iDrive application I want to install and use.


      Some applications might not need new libraries to be installed, but others will.  So I do recommend applying the patches.  Hopefully Netgear will include them in a future OS-6 update.
        

      • Sandshark's avatar
        Sandshark
        Sensei - Experienced User

        StephenB wrote:
        Hopefully Netgear will include them in a future OS-6 update.  

        I rather doubt it because of the requirement to allow insecure updates.  Netgear will likely see that as a potential liability.

         

        The alternative would be for them to mirror the repository and apply their own signature.  But that could also be seen by them as risky.