Orbi firmware v2.1.1.16 discussion

cbeck
Aspirant
Dec 28, 2017
Not to be too much of a newbie, but how do you tell if the router and/or sat's have rebooted, besides actually seeing an outage? The Log in the admin section?
- tagteam
  Virtuoso
  Dec 28, 2017
  Log in via the link below and you will be able to see your system uptime.
  
  http://www.orbilogin.com/debug.htm
  
  Note that you can also see your uptime by logging in to orbilogin.com (or .net), clicking the ADVANCED tab and then clicking the SHOW STATISTICS button under INTERNET PORT.
- RogerSC
  Virtuoso
  Dec 28, 2017
  cbeck wrote:
  Not to be too much of a newbie, but how do you tell if the router and/or sat's have rebooted, besides actually seeing an outage? The Log in the admin section?
  I hate this forum software, lost another posting when I edited it. I'm tired of re-typing my postings, I guess that I should save them in an editor before posting and then I'd have an easy way of re-posting without having to spend my time re-writing the same posting I just made.
  
  Sucks, man *smile*. Live and learn, I guess.
sherveyjeff
Apprentice
Dec 29, 2017

v2.1.1.16 woes,
Long story - but the auto update upgraded my RBR50/RBS50 around Xmas. Since then I have a very unreliable network. Router/Sat reboots randomly.
Lots of people scremaing in my house. Ive had my ORBI since June... and was very reliable.
I basically went back to the older firmware 2.0.0.74 and updated NVRAM via telnet for the 3 auto update params. But my router still had random reboots.
I then went back to v2.1.1.16 and updated NVRAM params to auto update. I also noticed with v2.1.1.16 that my Sat/RBS50 accepts connections in the beginning after a reboot but when I look an hour later it (Sat/RBS50) has no connections - they all pile up on the router RBR50.
I even tried to hardware the Sat/RBS50 since I had a Gb switch nearby. Same thing - the Sat will accept a bunch of connections in the beginning after a boot (10 or 15 connections) but hours later they are gone... piled up on the RBR50.
This morning the router rebooted and it went back to factory defaults... all my customizations were gone. I was going to load the backup file but also wondered if it would be better to start fresh and just update the essential settings that I use.

My router customs are:
- Custom SID name
- Guest Network
- 10.0.0.1 LAN addresses and for DHCP
- uncheck Enable 20/40 MHz Coexistence for wireless 2.4GHz.
- I have some reserved IP addresses but didn't define them yet.

Whats unique about my network:
- About 40-45 devices on network
- 100mbps down/10up - Spectrum broadband
- 1 to 2TB data usage per month.
- 2 teenage kids that are Xbox One heavy users.
- 1 spare Xbox One is a game server.
- It's a streaming world nowadays.
- Critical for my job as I remote access/VPN into work allot. In IT for 30 years.

Unsure what support is available as it appears that I only have 90 days of real support from June when it was purchased.... after that you have to pay. Very disappointed in this new firmware. Wondering if I need to look for a different brand of router. It "ORBI" was very reliable for first 7 months.
- rhester72
  Virtuoso
  Dec 29, 2017
  The random reboots - don't happen to have any Pixel (or late-model Android with the November security patch) devices in the house, do you?
  
  If so, try taking them off your home wifi for a day and see if things settle down (on 2.0 - 2.1 reboots randomly for entirely different reasons).
Blcklab
Apprentice
Dec 30, 2017
robertcdh wrote:
I rolled-back to 2.0.0.74 and my Orbi has not rebooted like before. Now, it only seems to reboot when I wake my Moto Z Play after a while of inactivity. My phone is still running Nougat but it has the November security patch. There are no Oreo devices in my house.

I'm going to try and see if any other devices triggers a reboot.

Has anyone else noticed something similar? I wonder if it has anything to do with the KRACK WiFi fixes applied to Android and Orbi.
I'm thinking of rolling back too as a stable WiFi is very important for us. Leisure, work plus home security like ring doorbell. How much Krack risk is there rolling back until there's new firmware?
- RogerSC
  Virtuoso
  Dec 30, 2017
  Blcklab wrote:
  robertcdh wrote:
  I rolled-back to 2.0.0.74 and my Orbi has not rebooted like before. Now, it only seems to reboot when I wake my Moto Z Play after a while of inactivity. My phone is still running Nougat but it has the November security patch. There are no Oreo devices in my house.
  
  I'm going to try and see if any other devices triggers a reboot.
  
  Has anyone else noticed something similar? I wonder if it has anything to do with the KRACK WiFi fixes applied to Android and Orbi.
  I'm thinking of rolling back too as a stable WiFi is very important for us. Leisure, work plus home security like ring doorbell. How much Krack risk is there rolling back until there's new firmware?
  I don't think that KRACK is much of a risk at this point. The person attacking you has to be very close to play with your wireless. Chances of that, with so many wireless networks around is very low. Unless you're a celebrity or have a ton of money, or have some really determined people that don't like you :-).
  
  The thing is, though, I don't believe that auto-flash is in place on the Netgear side at this moment...I'm not seeing any signs of it, and someone else remarked that it's "off" on the Netgear side until after the first of the year. So you can expect that your roll-back of firmware versions will be auto-flashed back to the latest once they turn back on auto-flash on their end. Or maybe they won't turn auto-flash back on? That would be my vote.
  - Blcklab
    Apprentice
    Dec 30, 2017
    Yes there's a thread from a Netgear moderator announcing they've disabled it for time being. I'll watch my system throughout the day and revert back if this continues

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