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Ready to chuck this system through the window
Latest firmware V2.2.1.210 on AP mode.
This is the 3rd time I've tried to set this system up.
The first time my 2 LAN connected satelites suddenly switched to Wifi and refused to switch back to L...
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stark101 wrote:
Latest firmware V2.2.1.210 on AP mode.
This is the 3rd time I've tried to set this system up.
The first time my 2 LAN connected satelites suddenly switched to Wifi and refused to switch back to LAN backhaul.
The second time, I lost access to the routers and they wouldn't show either through the app or the html login - I was connected to the satelites, but they wouldn't show on the main router page. I spent several frustrating days checking settings and eventually manually updating the firmware because they'd not previous updated properly.
This time I've set up a single satelite. While setting up the system I set up the SSID with XNAME1 to make sure no other devices connected. I then set up the satelite with a LAN backhaul, made sure I could connect, made sure I could walk between them. Once I was happy things were ok, I renamed the SSID to XNAME. Problem is now, the satelite still shows XNAME1 so I have 2 independent WIFIs now.
Also any devices that are connected to the satelite show as wired devices in the main router page. If you browse to the satelites html page it shows that most of my network is connected (wired) into it despite only having 1 wire to the switch.
Log into the main Orbi router and it show's all my Wired network connected into the switch which is 100+ items, even though it's only connected to my Router.
The main Orbi router still says "waiting for connection" when it looks for a firmware update for my satelite despite being connected via LAN.
My IPAD Pro still disconnects every 5-10 minutes despite being 5 foot away from the router. I have constant disconnects from other devices, but when they disconnect seems to take upwards of 30 mins to reconnect though that may be the devices.
I've got to say, given the amount of people with issues on this forum and my experiences I've bought an absolute piece of garbage.
Not looking for a solution to this, because there probably isn't other than a set it up for a fourth time, just wanted to vent.
Ok, thanks for the slightly random questions and more info. I went through a 4th setup and while it is technically working now, it seems to be through some random magic rather than actual science.
Brought all 3 units together, set them up in default Router mode rather than AP (so is on a different IP subnet to my wired LAN), all working ok apart from some odd drop outs when I was left being unable to ping anything, but eventually seemed to stabalise.
Now, I've taken the 2 satelites up stairs and plugged them into the LAN (as they're out of range of the main wifi) to kick start LAN backhaul.
However, the 2 satelites now show as disconnected (even after 12 hours), but when I connect to one satelites wifi (in the room right next to it), I can connect to the internet, BUT and it's a big BUT I receive an IP address from my main Internet router (192.168.1.x) rather than from the Orbi Router (192.168.2.x).
If I'm downstairs and connect to the main orbi router through wifi I get the 192.168.2.x address.
I've got 3 x managed smart switches inbetween the routers and satelites, but they're set to default other than being on a LAG. I have a draytek router with 4g backup and a Virgin Media line. I don't have any problem with the LAN setup.
In router mode I only see the devices that are connected to the wifi on the main router and if I log into each satelite indvidually I see what's connected there.
Oh, and I've tried enabling and disabling daisy chain, nothing.
What is the Mfr and model of the managed switches?
Disable ALL IGMP protocols on the manages switches, save and apply the change. You may need to power OFF the Orbi, satellites and switches fully then back on after the change.
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1553749/highlight/true#M30673
Leave Daisy Chain enabled on the UI for the router. This is needed while your wire connected to the satelites on this version of FW.
This will actually be disabled. Ya NG is aware of this.
Hi,
They're TP-LINK T1700G-28TQ / TL-SG1016DE / TL-SG108E
IGMP snooping / proxy was already disabled on the router and switches as I've had issues with this in the past.
stark101 wrote:
Now, I've taken the 2 satelites up stairs and plugged them into the LAN (as they're out of range of the main wifi) to kick start LAN backhaul.
However, the 2 satelites now show as disconnected (even after 12 hours), but when I connect to one satelites wifi (in the room right next to it), I can connect to the internet, BUT and it's a big BUT I receive an IP address from my main Internet router (192.168.1.x) rather than from the Orbi Router (192.168.2.x).
If I'm downstairs and connect to the main orbi router through wifi I get the 192.168.2.x address.
This behavior indicates the satellites are wired incorrectly. If the Orbi is in router mode, the satellites are wired, and the sats get an IP from your main router, then you have the satellites connected to the WAN side of the Orbi. The statellites will never establish a proper wired connection that way because the Orbi firewalls the WAN side. The satellites need to be connected to the LAN side of the Orbi.
Any progress on this?
stark101 wrote:
Ok, thanks for the slightly random questions and more info. I went through a 4th setup and while it is technically working now, it seems to be through some random magic rather than actual science.
Brought all 3 units together, set them up in default Router mode rather than AP (so is on a different IP subnet to my wired LAN), all working ok apart from some odd drop outs when I was left being unable to ping anything, but eventually seemed to stabalise.
Now, I've taken the 2 satelites up stairs and plugged them into the LAN (as they're out of range of the main wifi) to kick start LAN backhaul.
However, the 2 satelites now show as disconnected (even after 12 hours), but when I connect to one satelites wifi (in the room right next to it), I can connect to the internet, BUT and it's a big BUT I receive an IP address from my main Internet router (192.168.1.x) rather than from the Orbi Router (192.168.2.x).
If I'm downstairs and connect to the main orbi router through wifi I get the 192.168.2.x address.
I've got 3 x managed smart switches inbetween the routers and satelites, but they're set to default other than being on a LAG. I have a draytek router with 4g backup and a Virgin Media line. I don't have any problem with the LAN setup.
In router mode I only see the devices that are connected to the wifi on the main router and if I log into each satelite indvidually I see what's connected there.
Thanks for all the suggestions, especially the explanation of why the default router mode wouldn't work with wired switches - makes complete sense when I think about it. I didn't try re-wiring them behind the router as I was having problems with a couple of wireless printers being undiscoverable from the LAN - didn't realise it would firewall everything. Have switched back to AP mode and it has resolved that particular issue. If I join the Orbi routers just to the tp-link switches everything works as lan backhaul, if I go 2 switches down, it works, but if I join it via the draytek router, I hit issues. I've since had a rethink about the position of the satelines (thick brick walls hamper the signal) and have managed to position them all within good signal of each other (in daisy chain) - not ideal, but until I sort the draytek out or put a switch directly in front of the router.
You can put a switch behind the Draytek and connect all Orbi and other swtiches to this main switch behind the router.
Glad it's working better. Ya, the managed and Green switch features on some of these switches seems to be an issue for Orbi. If you keep a good standard non managed switch behing the router, you should be good either way.