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What is the highest speed that the Orbi's can handle?
Good Day All!
I have the Orbi Mesh Router. The Orbi AC2200 and I have the main router in the living room and a Satelite down in the basement. I have Verizon Fios package that's supposed to give...
Wired and wireless speeds will be different.
You won't always get gigabit speed across the Internet, because your data will go across links of varying quality. Test your connection speed using the official Verizon speed test on a wired laptop or desktop. This keeps the data within the Verizon network.
Wireless throughput will be less than wired. Orbi has a maximum WiFi link rate of 866 Mbps, so you should expect maximum throughput around 500 Mbps. I've measured up to 520 Mbps WiFi throughput on my Orbi with an iPhone 7+.
unless your wired you will never get 1gb/s on a single wireless connection. that service is designed so multiple devices can have high usage at the same time. a 1x1 connection commonly found in smart phones and laptops will only get a max of 433 mpbs. thats is perfect conditions. realistly with a good strong signal you will only see around 250-300. newer apple products have 2x2 and 3x3 availble so it can max out the orbi wireless connection of 866 mbps 2x2. but you can do this on both the router and satellite at the same time with 4 devices you could reach 1gbps speed. realistic 2x2 speeds are around 650mb/s. its not a orbi problem its just how wifi works. 5ghz has very little range esp at high speed. same room line of sight is required for this. anything else will slow it down. hook up ethernet to do a full bandwitch test. as stated earlier also run the qos speed test again. if it was run with the old setup it will limit the new setup.
waynealight wrote:
newer apple products have 2x2 and 3x3 availble so it can max out the orbi wireless connection of 866 mbps 2x2.
It's important to understand that "max out" doesn't mean you will get 866 Mbps data throughput for a single client. For Orbi, 866 is the maximum physical link rate. With any WiFi system, a single client will only achieve a maximum of about 50-65% of the link rate as throughput, under ideal conditions, due to the overhead involved in WiFi. The best throughput I've seen on a 2x2 866 Mbps link is 600 Mbps. That was with a Unifi LR AP and a brand new 2018 Macbook Pro. The same Macbook did 770 Mbps on a 3x3 1300 Mbps AP.
pretty sure i clarified that statement with real world 2x2 speed of around 650mbps
I haven't seen any reports of more than about 550 Mbps WiFi throughput on Orbi.
I'll test mine this weekend with the latest MacBook Pro.
@ 100/100mbps plan
st_shaw wrote:
waynealight wrote:
newer apple products have 2x2 and 3x3 availble so it can max out the orbi wireless connection of 866 mbps 2x2.
It's important to understand that "max out" doesn't mean you will get 866 Mbps data throughput for a single client. For Orbi, 866 is the maximum physical link rate. With any WiFi system, a single client will only achieve a maximum of about 50-65% of the link rate as throughput, under ideal conditions, due to the overhead involved in WiFi. The best throughput I've seen on a 2x2 866 Mbps link is 600 Mbps. That was with a Unifi LR AP and a brand new 2018 Macbook Pro. The same Macbook did 770 Mbps on a 3x3 1300 Mbps AP.
There we go with the acornyms and stuff. I don't know what the heck Unifi LR AP or a 2x2 or 3x3 means! I'm just your average consumer. If the max output a Orbi can produce is 600mbps then there's no point in getting a 1GBPS plan. The router just can handle it or maybe it's bc my Surface Pro 2017 can't handle it. I don't know but I just got the Surface Pro 2017 a month ago and those were the numbers I got when I was on the 1GBPS plan and even on my 2012 MBP 13" Retina it was getting the same exact numbers. I mean literally the same.
I just wanted to know what the Orbi can and can't handle bc if I'm paying close to $60/month for a 1GBPS plan with FIOS, I expect it to work flawlessly and I expect it to be blazing fast speeds. I don't think the router Verzion provided us could handle those numbers either even by ethernet. If I did a speed test on the FIOS router, I would get only about 50mbps up and 70mbps down and that's if I'm sitting right next to the router. Now the thing I want to know is how do I setup the Orbi router so that I can just use that router instead of using the Verizon supplied one. I think the Orbi is so much faster but I'll have a total of 12 devices on the Orbi if I get rid of the FIOS router bc right now there's only 7 devices connected to the Orbi routers. Is there a way to do this bc right now I have the Orbi router sitting right next to the FIOS router and then the satellite plug-in in the basement. I've never figured out how to replace my FIOS router completely and then replace it with the Orbi. Maybe the FIOS router is interfering with the Orbi router since they're sitting right next to each other but that's what Verizon told me I had to do bc only their router works on their network and I would have to tether the Orbi router from the Fios Router to the Orbi. I think that might have something to do with it.
After switching back to the 100/100 mbps these are the numbers I'm getting and it varies from time to time bc sometimes I can get it to clock in at over 100mbps up/down and that's wifi and not tethered to anything. Granted I have 7 devices connected to it but still I get similar numbers when I try the test on my iPHone 8+ and that's one of the newest phones out right now so I know it can handle a fast connection to the internet. I'm not so sure about the Surface Pro 2017 even though it's 1 month old. I have the i7/8GB/256GB Memory version for $1,299 and I had to get it for work. I use the tablet/pc on a daily basis for my work as a Loan Processor and I'm allowed to work at home and that's why I wanted to upgrade but it doesn't look like I'll be getting my money's worth.
waynealight wrote:
unless your wired you will never get 1gb/s on a single wireless connection. that service is designed so multiple devices can have high usage at the same time. a 1x1 connection commonly found in smart phones and laptops will only get a max of 433 mpbs. thats is perfect conditions. realistly with a good strong signal you will only see around 250-300. newer apple products have 2x2 and 3x3 availble so it can max out the orbi wireless connection of 866 mbps 2x2. but you can do this on both the router and satellite at the same time with 4 devices you could reach 1gbps speed. realistic 2x2 speeds are around 650mb/s. its not a orbi problem its just how wifi works. 5ghz has very little range esp at high speed. same room line of sight is required for this. anything else will slow it down. hook up ethernet to do a full bandwitch test. as stated earlier also run the qos speed test again. if it was run with the old setup it will limit the new setup.
Ok. I'm a moron bc I have no idea what you guys mean by 1x1 or 2x2 oe 3x3. I have a Brand New Surface Pro 2017 i7/8GB/256GB memory verison that I had to get for work. I am a Mortgage Loan Processor and sometimes I'm allowed to work at home and few days a week the internet at my work is blazing fast and I wanted to have the same speed. With that said, I have tried to use my iPhone 8+ run the speed test on wifi and it will get me numbers over 100/100mbps on a 100mbps plan. When I had the 1GBPS plan, it was only for a day, the best I could come up with was 300mbps and that was it. No special configuration. I know that the Surface Pro 2017 can handle the speeds bc I just got this laptop a month ago bc I had to use IE11 and Apple doesn't support Internet Explorer 11 and the only laptop I had was a 6 yr old 13" MBP. I was an Apple junky until I started using the Surface Pro. It is so much more than just a tablet and it does so much more than the stupid iPad Pro 12.9". I know bc I have both and I will never go back to another Apple computer again. One of the coolest features I've learned about windows is the "snipping tool" and it is something Apple does not have. Windows is unstable but for the most part it does everything that I need it to do any more in the size of a tablet no bigger than the iPad Pro 12.9" model and that's Apple's flagship iPad. Anyways, the Apple products seems to run well with the Orbi mesh routers. Their speeds are high and unlike the Surface Pro 2017 they get speeds of about 100/100 consistantly and I don't know why.
I don't know how to confiure my router for max performance. Someone would have to walk me through it bc I didn't mess with any of the settings after I setup the device. All I did was download the Orbi app on my iPhone 8+ and then plugged my Orbi into the FIOS router and set it up. I have never since touched any of the setting nor do I know which settings I should be changing. I love tech and I am a tech junky but I couldn't tell you how my Orbi is setup. I set it up using my iphone and that was it. I left it alone ever since, sitting right next to the FIOS router. Could that be an issue? Verizon told me that I had to tether the Orbi into the Verizon router and I could not just use the Orbi router as the main router. I had to tether it and that's what they said so we have 2 wifi networks in the house. I know that can't be good but I live in a townhouse and the Verizon tech put the router in the living room (i have 3 floors) and it's in the middle of the house and that's where it's been sitting this whole time. When I do a speedtest on the Verizon provided router, I only get about 40mbps up/down which was unacceptable to me bc I'm paying for 100/100mbps. With the Orbi router and satellite, I can get speeds north of 100+ sometimes but I have 7 devices connected at all times so that may be a root of my problems.
Is there any way that I can get rid of my FIOS router and replace it with the Orbi router and use that as the main router rather than tethering it? If so, can someone walk me through it? I will be willing to pay anyone via paypal $50 if they could help me successfully change my main router from the Verizon router to the Orbi router. My e-mail is bryan.y.yu@icloud.com. E-mail me if you think you're up for the task and you have my word if you can help me I will wire you $50.
I just re-ran the speedtest and these are the numbers I got. I wished that I could get faster internet speeds with the Orbi Router but it doesn't seem like it's possible bc I don't know how to configure it so that it uses it's full potential. Like I said, if anyone is willing to help me, e-mail me and we'll get started. I have no problems signing an agreement with anyone who can help me successfully change my Verizon FIOS router to the Orbi router and help me configure it so that I get the best speed possible. I don't want to hard reset the router bc if the IP address changes then I need to e-mail my tech support team at work and have them put my home IP address in their systems so I can access the work apps that I use to process mortgages. Any help would be much appreciated. THanks in advance!
