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AML1618
Feb 28, 2019Aspirant
difference in Nighthawk M2 MR2100 & M1 MR1100
What is the difference between MR2100 & MR1100
Hi AML1618
Thank you for your interest.
Nighthawk M2 Mobile Router (MR2100)
- LTE CAT 20, DL support up to 2Gbps speeds
- 3GPP, Rel. 14
- 5CA with 20 simultaneous Downlink layers
- 4x4 MIMO
- 256QAM DL / 64QAM UL CA 3C, 7C
- 11ac Dual band dual concurrent
Nighthawk M1 Mobile Router (MR1100)
- LTE CAT 16, DL support up to 1Gbps speeds
- 3GPP, Rel. 12
- 4CA with 10 simultaneous Downlink layers
- 4x4 MIMO
- 256QAM DL / 64QAM UL CA 3C, 7C
- 11ac Dual band dual concurrent
Regards,
Blanca
Community Team
26 Replies
- TeeJay74Virtuoso
- Blanca_ONETGEAR Employee Retired
Hi AML1618
Thank you for your interest.
Nighthawk M2 Mobile Router (MR2100)
- LTE CAT 20, DL support up to 2Gbps speeds
- 3GPP, Rel. 14
- 5CA with 20 simultaneous Downlink layers
- 4x4 MIMO
- 256QAM DL / 64QAM UL CA 3C, 7C
- 11ac Dual band dual concurrent
Nighthawk M1 Mobile Router (MR1100)
- LTE CAT 16, DL support up to 1Gbps speeds
- 3GPP, Rel. 12
- 4CA with 10 simultaneous Downlink layers
- 4x4 MIMO
- 256QAM DL / 64QAM UL CA 3C, 7C
- 11ac Dual band dual concurrent
Regards,
Blanca
Community Team
- TeeJay74Virtuoso
Hey,
Let's hope that Netgear enables 6CA/7CA support for MR2100 later(license thing). I think many cell operator's who have enough spectrum available are interested in this 6CA/7CA feature. It looks like there is no support for this at the basestation side yet.
I also hope that 5G hype does not slow down 4G evolution, which still has untapped potential like this 6CA/7CA. - AML1618Aspirant
Thanks, greatly helps me understand
- ApollonApprentice
Does MR2100 have a static DNS support, lacking in MR1100?
Will there be a US version anytime soon, with FDD-LTE bands B2,B4,B12 support?
- SchuttiApprentice
Nighthawk M2 Mobile Router (MR2100) -
LTE CAT 20, DL support up to 2Gbps speeds - 3GPP, Rel. 14 - 5CA with 20 simultaneous Downlink layers - 4x4 MIMO - 256QAM DL / 64QAM UL CA 3C, 7C - 11ac Dual band dual concurrent
Nighthawk M1 Mobile Router (MR1100) - LTE CAT 16, DL support up to 1Gbps speeds - 3GPP, Rel. 12 - 4CA with 10 simultaneous Downlink layers - 4x4 MIMO - 256QAM DL / 64QAM UL CA 3C, 7C - 11ac Dual band dual concurrent
I cannot see really much advantage of the M2.
Upload CA only with 3C or 7C is very poor.
Show my one net operator with 2x2x20 Mhz on Band 3 or Band 7.
Useless.
Whrere is UL-CA 3_7 or 3_1 or 20_7
- JSchnee21Virtuoso
"You would have to max out an M1's capabilities before an M2 is going to help at all performance-wise. I'm not sure that is possible to do in the United States at this time."
Unfortunately, the MR1100 is clearly under performing in the United States when compared with AUS and EU. Compared to my iPhone XSM, my MR1100 is generally only half as fast on downloads and roughly the same (or better) on uploads.
So while I agree that from a theoretical -- paper spec sheet perspective - the MR2100 is unlikely to be any faster than the MR1100 given the mismatch between theoretical capabilities of the hotspot and a carrier's actual, deployed capabilities in the field. But in reality, the MR1100 is such a dog, that many are holding out hopes that the new version will be better.
In practice, if the MR2100 was as fast as my iPhone (albeit with better RF sensitivity), I'd gladly pay $399 for it. But, I would not pay $1 for the "5G" M5 Fusion which lacks Ethernet and LTE antenna jacks.
Soon, I may just need to buy a nice Samsung LTE table and use that for a hot spot for my iPad and laptop (-:
LTE CAT 20, DL support up to 2Gbps speeds sounds great,
but what about wi-fi connection? Is it still 2x2 mimo as it is in MR1 1100 ?
With ethernet limited to 500Mbps and Wi-Fi connection limited to 867 Mb[s (2x2 mimo 5gh 80mhz wide channel) we will never reach more than 867Mbps ....- Moof66Aspirant
The only difference that matters is the M2 is touch screen and therefore easier to use.
The speed boost is imaginary for most people 'cos we never even got close to maxing out the 1Gb capability of the M1, so what good is 2Gb gonna do?
- JSchnee21Virtuoso
Theoretically you'e absolutely right. But in practice the MR1100 Gen1 and Gen2 is such a dog compared to other devices with the same or similar mobile chipsets there are only three possibilities:
1) AT&T is throttling it and/or other hotspots while not throttling flagship phones. E.G. my iPhone XSM is generally 2x faster in all locations. Samsung Galaxy devices 8/9/10 are even faster.
2) The FCC approvals castrated the device -- no 256QAM, no 4x4, etc.
3) Some other hardware/firmware internal flaw / design choice is hampering performance on the AT&T network / USA bands/frequencies.
The MR2100 represents the opportunity for a do-over. It won't help for issues #1. But Netgear would get a second shot at #2 and #3. When the MR1100 was released, twice, in the US market it was rushing to catch up with a number of recent changes Band 14, LAA, recent LTE-A related changes all of which were in various states of readiness during the MR1100 lifecycle.
Now that the AT&T network has stabilized, I'm hopeful that the MR2100 might have a chance to perform better -- that is to say up to the level of a flagship phone -- assuming AT&T will let it. Of course this is still just wishful thinking.
Of course, it often takes Netgear 6 to 12 months worth of software revision to work all of the bugs out of the firmware -- which seems crazy given that the device is already launched on similar networks in two global markets already.