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Could a GS748T kill a GS308e??
OK, this one is strange (to me). I thought all was going swimmingly with my new GS748Tv5... I even successfully changed the management VLAN after a heart-stopping pause. (It wouldn't talk to port...
I think I've solved this one. (Obviously) I can't be certain exactly what caused this...
(Background: my gs308e was working perfectly a few days ago. I logged in and recorded (manually) a few configuration parameters.)
Here's what I discovered through careful testing:
1) The gs308e no longer is willing to talk to modern browsers. AFAIK I didn't change anything. And the firmware is not new either. On a hunch, I tried a bunch of browsers...
2) It WILL talk to old IE, Internet Explorer. Unfortunately, my copy won't just open... now Microsoft Edge has mangled it and forces me to MS edge... and they claim I just need to use the built in "IE Mode" button.
3) IE Mode button doesn't exist. But google has an addon, "Legacy Browser Support for IE Mode in Edge". Install that. It works when you load the switch UI with this enabled!
4) Switch then complained about a bad password?!! Oh no... switch had fully reset itself!
Well, at least I have the switch back 😉
I think I've solved this one. (Obviously) I can't be certain exactly what caused this...
(Background: my gs308e was working perfectly a few days ago. I logged in and recorded (manually) a few configuration parameters.)
Here's what I discovered through careful testing:
1) The gs308e no longer is willing to talk to modern browsers. AFAIK I didn't change anything. And the firmware is not new either. On a hunch, I tried a bunch of browsers...
2) It WILL talk to old IE, Internet Explorer. Unfortunately, my copy won't just open... now Microsoft Edge has mangled it and forces me to MS edge... and they claim I just need to use the built in "IE Mode" button.
3) IE Mode button doesn't exist. But google has an addon, "Legacy Browser Support for IE Mode in Edge". Install that. It works when you load the switch UI with this enabled!
4) Switch then complained about a bad password?!! Oh no... switch had fully reset itself!
Well, at least I have the switch back 😉
The web UI HTML the CSS and JS code of any current Plus switch is that basic and simple - there are no dependencies on special browser builds. Spend time on cleaning out your computer, worth every minute. Something must be wrong, there are no needs for forcing the deployment of prehistoric long year reliable IE, installing in most situation unneeded plugins, and much more. On one hand, all introducing major risks, on the other hand a red herring. A recipe for uncontrolled flight into terrain catastrophe.
schumaku wrote:The web UI HTML the CSS and JS code of any current Plus switch is that basic and simple - there are no dependencies on special browser builds.
I would love to believe that, but my diagnostic experience yesterday disagreed 😉
I attempted to connect in multiple ways, multiple browsers, multiple computers. No intervening change to the switch itself. I didn't have time to dig in deep to replicate and find the exact root cause (nobody's paying me to do that like they used to 😉 )...
My only hunch, truly just that, is based on a brief observation:
* Observed (wireshark): on the successful connect from "legacy IE" that IE sent two SYN packets in a row... perhaps something has changed with more "modern" browsers. I dunno.
* Hunch: under certain circumstances, perhaps the switch firmware gets into a strange state that's frobbed just right by an older browser.All I know for a fact is, once I touched it with the old browser (I'll call that the "IE touch" 😉 ), things started happening, apparently due to a comprehensive reset of the firmware.
* It became visible to the ProSAFE Plus Utility* It DHCP'd to get an IP address (power cycle did NOT do that prior to the "IE touch")
* I could log in using the default password
Happy to call that an anomaly. Some kind of weird state 😉
There are huge numbers of GS3nnU[xx] produced and many of them delivered. Matter of fact, IE is a dead horse, and people don't have to use this stuff anymore. Alternate browsers became industry standard. And as a fallback, Microsoft has put in the IE-compatibility mode in place to modern Edge.
If anywhere near to be an operational threat, we would hear much more about this in the community.
Personally, I do believe in the modern browsers, and have always current Chrome and Firefox builds on my mobile device and my quick ageing Windows 10 system with Chrome, Firefox, new Edge, and Opera for quick comparisons. For special purposes, yes, I still have operational Windows 7 systems at hand, including legacy IE builds ad-hoc available for commercial enterprise support work.
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