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JoeM845
Aug 09, 2018Luminary
Just bought new GS110TPv2 - Have I made a mistake?
Bought a GS110TPv2 to replace GS108PEv2 in a LAN segment with 2 other GS108Ev2s and a GS116Ev2. Parts of the LAN would cut-off infrequently. A power cycle on the GS108PEv2 would restore function. I n...
- Aug 12, 2018
The GS510TLP and GS510TPP represent the newer generation, built-in power supply, with higher resp. much higher PoE capacity, fanless resp. with a single fan in the Netgear Smart Managed Pro line-up.
Worth mentioning are the GC110P, GC510P, and GC510PP from the Insight Managed Gigabit switch line. These come with a very comprehensive feature set in standalone management mode.
Still, if you like the small enclosure with the external power supply, We might want to challenge Netgear bradleyv why the Device View is still not adapted to current technology, as browser makers abandoned NPAPI for years (after many more years of announcements) rendering the Device View in Java useless..
JoeM845
Aug 11, 2018Luminary
Any suggestions on a managed switch with similar port/bandwidth capacity and PoE output that is earlier in its expected life cycle?
schumaku
Aug 12, 2018Guru - Experienced User
The GS510TLP and GS510TPP represent the newer generation, built-in power supply, with higher resp. much higher PoE capacity, fanless resp. with a single fan in the Netgear Smart Managed Pro line-up.
Worth mentioning are the GC110P, GC510P, and GC510PP from the Insight Managed Gigabit switch line. These come with a very comprehensive feature set in standalone management mode.
Still, if you like the small enclosure with the external power supply, We might want to challenge Netgear bradleyv why the Device View is still not adapted to current technology, as browser makers abandoned NPAPI for years (after many more years of announcements) rendering the Device View in Java useless..
- bradleyvAug 14, 2018NETGEAR Expert
All - great discussion going on here.
The single solution for all of this device discovery is to use the Insight Mobile App.
It will discover all NETGEAR Insight Smart Cloud, Smart Pro, and Smart Plus switches.
Further, you can remotely/cloud manage Insight Smart Cloud switches with it.
For Smart Managed Pro and Smart Managed Plus Switches, it will show you the IP address of the devices, let you add them to your MyNetgear account for inventory tracking, warranty entitlement, and quick access to support.
For Unmanaged Switches (with no management interface), you can still scan in the serial number barcode with your phone or type in the serial numbers from your switches and they too will appear in your list of devices for inventory tracking, warranty entitlement, and quick access to support.
While we'd like to be able to remove the need for Java or Adobe Air or Smart Control Center requirements for all of our switches, it's not always possible (based on hardware design/capabilities) to make all prior products work exactly the same as more recent products.
As we continue to release new and updated products, we will move them all off of Java/Adobe Air and aim to make the discovery, management, and support access on all of our products much easier.
The key here is that the Insight Mobile app isn't just for Insight Smart Cloud Switches - you can use it for all your NETGEAR Business products (switches, APs, and NAS).
So, I strongly encourage you, if you haven't yet downloaded and tried using the NETGEAR Insight Mobile app, do so!
- bradleyvAug 14, 2018NETGEAR ExpertDevice View (and the local management GUI) is not the intent of Insight Smart Cloud Switches. They are an alternative/backup way to access some of the most advanced (and lesser used) capabilities of the switches, with the primary access/management being Insight. That said, they still have "Device View" and it doesn't require Java or anything else; it's all done through HTML5.
- schumakuAug 15, 2018Guru - Experienced User
bradleyv wrote:
... They are an alternative/backup way to access some of the most advanced (and lesser used) capabilities of the switches, with the primary access/management being Insight. ...Isn't this simplified to much? An Insight switch is either in Insight Cloud Management mode, or it's in local Web management mode.
Rumour is that some features/functions can be configured as long as the switch is in Local Web Management mode, and these are retained once the switch is migrated to the Insight Cloud Management mode.
However, I can't see that this should be done in reality - as there is no more control access, audit becomes impossible, ...
If things would be fully co-operateable, there would have been no reason to limit the Local Web access. Switching between the modes can't be part of the normal administration process, too.
Can't find any related documentation or KB entries.
bradleyv wrote:
Device View (and the local management GUI) is not the intent of Insight Smart Cloud Switches.... That said, they still have "Device View" and it doesn't require Java or anything else; it's all done through HTML5.The Local Web Management is certainly a fully supported and workable feature.
bradleyv wrote:
That said, they still have "Device View" and it doesn't require Java or anything else; it's all done through HTML5.The complaint here is that "older" UI products still maintained, supported, and still available in the market (!) are still requiring NPAPI called Java, and this was not updated in time as part of the maintenance loop. The browser makers announced ceasing from supporting NPAPI years ago - so there was plenty of time before your customers are hitting the wall.
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