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Setting up VLAN with Google Wifi. Switch "dissapears" on network.
Hi Everyone! I have succesfully setup my Smart Switch to manage the VLAN tagging to a Google Nest Wifi Router. The Wifi works fine, even the wired connection seems fine. However, when I go from the...
By rule of thumb you need two VLANs. First for the Internet WAN part:
- #7 with the link towards the Telekom side VLAN 7, tagged, PVID whatever (I think, no need for handling non-tagged packets there) no other VLAN membership (!!!)
- #7 with the link towards the Google WiFi VLAN 7, untagged, PVID 7 - no other VLAN membership (!!!)
When I understand you right, this does work.
Now it seems you intend to use the switch also for the LAN with a dedicated VLAN. You could use the default VLAN 1. Ensure this is VLAN not on the two ports where Internet/WAN VLAN 7 is. So configure all other ports to VLAN 1, untagged, PVID1 - and no other VLAN membership.
The static IP (on a LAN IP, like 192.168.1.x or whatever is in use there) is required because the Smart Managed Plus type switches (except some XS variants) don't allow to limit the controller to a single management VLAN. Said tht, there is some risk in this set-up with that switch class.1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
--VLAN1--- -7-
LAN Router, Telecom
Hi there schumaku,
Thank you for your patience.
I will attempt to elaborate. What I try to archive is not really super complicated. I think!
My ISP is Deutsche Telekom and they require VLAN Tagging ID 7, if you want to bypass their own router and use PPPoE.
So hereby some fancy graphics to convey what I want:
I tried via this guide: https://kb.netgear.com/30918/How-to-configure-an-802-1Q-VLAN-on-a-ProSAFE-Web-Managed-Plus-Switch-using-the-web-interface
What works:
- Internet works on all devices. Wired, and wirelessly.
- I can wirelessly access my desktop computers.
What does not work:
- In the moment i plug in the LAN cable from the Google Nest to the Netgear managed switch, the switch simply dissapears. I can't find it with the Netgear Utility, I can't ping it on the static IP i gave it and can't find it with Advanced IP Scanner. It's simply gone.
- I can't wirelessly access my server.
I made sure that the switch is not in DHCP mode and gave it a IP address on the same subnet, with an IP within the routers pool.
So I think it could be related to the VLAN tagging, but I am not sure!
Thanks for the patience.
However, something with DHCP or similar must fail. This is my what my unexperienced tummy tells me.
By rule of thumb you need two VLANs. First for the Internet WAN part:
- #7 with the link towards the Telekom side VLAN 7, tagged, PVID whatever (I think, no need for handling non-tagged packets there) no other VLAN membership (!!!)
- #7 with the link towards the Google WiFi VLAN 7, untagged, PVID 7 - no other VLAN membership (!!!)
When I understand you right, this does work.
Now it seems you intend to use the switch also for the LAN with a dedicated VLAN. You could use the default VLAN 1. Ensure this is VLAN not on the two ports where Internet/WAN VLAN 7 is. So configure all other ports to VLAN 1, untagged, PVID1 - and no other VLAN membership.
The static IP (on a LAN IP, like 192.168.1.x or whatever is in use there) is required because the Smart Managed Plus type switches (except some XS variants) don't allow to limit the controller to a single management VLAN. Said tht, there is some risk in this set-up with that switch class.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
--VLAN1--- -7-
LAN Router, Telecom
cheers for your help!
edit: just testing it now, but i might have made it to work from your suggestions! Will update
bless your soul.
it worked out brilliantly.
everything is working now. Switch is accessable, servers are accessable!
Kleiner Nachtrag - in der Tabelle ging etwas vergessen:
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--VLAN1---- -7-
U U U U U U U T
----LAN---- Router, TelekomImmer gerne, keine Ursache.
Grüsse aus der Schweiz!
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