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bluemercury
Nov 13, 2015Aspirant
SRX5308 ProSafe Firewall - downstream running at slow speed, when Virgin Router in 'modem mode'
I'm aware that the issued listed for the current firmware (4.3.3-6) on our SRX5308 may be affecting us: * Traffic is not following WAN upload or down load(higher one of them )speeds if the upload...
- Nov 26, 2015
Hi DaneA.
Thanks again for your post.
Here is what I ultimately established (after doing all resets, etc, as promised).
I had been using the very commonly utilised speed test at www.speedtest.net in order to assess our broadband speeds. As you know, our Virgin line was connected up to our WAN2 port.
On visiting www.speedtest.net, it confirms you IP address and the ISP your connected with. This was coming up as the correct dynamic IP for our Virgin Line, and confirming that the broadband ISP was 'Virgin Media'.
On running the tests, typically on the SRX5308 I would get downstream speeds of no more than 17 Mbps, and upstream speeds of up to 12 Mbps. This indicated a great problem with our downstream bandwidth that should have been running at 125 Mbps. I have the ProSafe Firewall configured to forward all http (port 80) and https (443) to WAN2, no exceptions - so this should have been good enough.
What I discovered is that speedtest.net do not utilise port 80 or 443, but 8080 for at least their downstream tests. As there was no strict rule on the SRX5308 for this, the net result was the firewall actually forwarding the test traffic over our slower BT ADSL connection on WAN1, which tops out at about 17 Mbps. 99% of the time, it correctly sent the upstream test through WAN2 (giving us the 12 Mbps speed), but on very rare occasions it failed at this too, giving about 0.75 Mbps (this only happened very recently). For whatever reason, the load balancing on the SRX5308 must be slightly different to the FVX538, the latter largely sending the port 8080 traffic down WAN2, hence largely seeing correct readouts on this. Other tests I did had the Virgin line linked up as a single WAN option, so it always behaved, as it had nowhere else to send the traffic!
The red herrings along the way were:
1) When first noticing the test results, by coincidence the line was either running genuinely at a lower speed (perhaps some temp issues at Virgin) or the web server I was downloading files from was running at these lower speeds.2) The issue listed in the SRX5308 change log file, which has turned out to not be relevant.
3) The FVX538 generally performing the test correctly, despite being configured identically to the SRX5308 (load balancing must just be tweaked differently internally).
4) speedtest.net not warning of the fact the actually Adobe Flash based test (you hit the 'begin test' button, and it does it's magic) doesn't inform you that the test is running on a different IP address to the one that the front end displays, i.e. it should have assessed the difference between the Virgin IP displayed, and the BT one it was actually testing (that would really make sense for them to implement).
5) Probably other things which I forget in the process!
Incidentally, the SRX5308 did not take well to applying the old firmware - had a lot of problems rebooting and getting it accessible successfully, and had to do many resets. I did manage it in the end, and upgraded it back to the most recent firmware as soon as it was playing ball. Might be advisable to tell people to be cautious when flashing an old version of the firmware, even if it was ultimately salvagable.
The speed test at www.thinkbroadband.com appears to use the conventional http ports, giving accurate speed test results everytime.
So basically, this is problem solved! I'm going to post my own answer as the answer, as it was something quite outside of anything being discussed on here - but I truly do appreciate your input and Bob's input in trying to help me solve this conundrum. Thank you both very much, and sorry to have wasted any of your time at all! :-)
Many thanks,
Bobby
bob5244
Nov 22, 2015Aspirant
I am running this firmware on my SRX5308 with virgin media and get 150mbps down and 12mbps up with the super hub 2 in modem mode.
if you want to confirm settings with me I can let you know what I've got on my router if it helps
bluemercury
Nov 23, 2015Aspirant
Hi Bob.
Really appreciate you sharing your experience. I believe our version of the SuperHub is version 1, so perhaps there is something in this? I have also wondered whether the SuperHub needs a firmware update, but then I wouldn't know and this doesn't seem to be an end user option (guessing Virgin push them out remotely). I was looking at buying our own cable modem, but I understand it is only Virgin modems that will work on the network.
I do have an older Virgin modem (that can't go higher than 100 Mbps), so I think I might connect this back up, and see what happens. I'm also going to get in touch with Virgin. Our SuperHub worked fine at full speed in modem mode up until earlier this year - with your info shared I'm now wondering whether it is partially faulty, and the Netgear firmware bug listed was a red herring....
Perhaps you could confirm the firmware version of your SuperHub, in case this information correlates with ours (even if they are different models). I'm going to see if Virgin can give us the latest hardware, and also will be talking to them about changing the service and getting a static IP as part of their business service now in our area. We have accepted their high price and not negotiated in a long time, so they owe us!
Many, many thanks for sharing :-)
- bob5244Nov 24, 2015Aspirant
Hi,
As I previously mentioned, I have the Superhub 2ac (in itself a Netgear product!) These are the versions:
Cable Modem EuroDOCSIS 3.0 Compliant
Boot Code Version PSPU-Boot 1.0.20.1391
Software Version V1.01.11
Hardware Version 1.03
General Configuration Network Access Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs 1
Baseline Privacy Enabled
DOCSIS Mode EuroDOCSIS 3.0 Config File
Primary Downstream
Max Traffic Rate 168960000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 10000 bytes
Min Traffic Rate 0 bps
Primary Upstream
Max Traffic Rate 12600000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 16320 bytes Min Traffic Rate 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst 16320 bytes
Scheduling Type Best Effort
In terms of my SRX5308 settings, on the WAN ISP page, I have:
Does Your Internet Connection Require a Login? No
Which type of ISP connection do you use? Blank, greyed out
IP address: Get dynamically
DNS Servers: OpenDNS servers
Connection reset: unticked
On the WAN ISP advanced page I have:
MTU Size: 1500 bytes
Port speed: autosense
Routers MAC address: Default
Failure detection method: none
Upload/Download Settings:
WAN Connection Type: Other
WAN Connection Speed Upload: 1Gbps
WAN Connection Speed Download: 1Gbps
Hope this helps in some way.
- bluemercuryNov 26, 2015Aspirant
Hi Bob.
Many thanks indeed for so genourously sharing this info.
I have worked out the problem this evening and it is a laughable resolution, caused along the way by a number of Red Herrings.
I shall post this info now - it is neither Netgear or Virgin's fault!
Really appreciate you trying to help me :-)
Bobby
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