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blunderdome85
Oct 15, 2021Apprentice
SXK80 3.3.0.122 Fast Roaming Option Gone
Just decided to try the new 3.3.0.122 firmware and noticed that the option to enable/disable fast roaming under Advanced Setup -> Wireless Settings is gone. Factory reset after the update and confir...
- Mar 01, 2022
New firmware V4.0.0.118 is now out for the SXK80 and the Fast Roaming Option is back!
blunderdome85
Oct 15, 2021Apprentice
I'm still on 3.2.6 for the moment - can anyone on 3.3.0 check to see if they just moved it to the debug page?
quagmire1
Oct 15, 2021Luminary
Way ahead of you - I already checked that. It is *not* on the debug page.
- blunderdome85Oct 17, 2021Apprentice
Did some testing over the weekend and it looks like fast roaming is on with no way to disable it via the GUI. I for one need the option to turn it off restored as fast roaming is too agressive for some of my IoT devices.
- blunderdome85Oct 22, 2021Apprentice
Got a PM from DavidGo earlier this week saying they would check on this and get back to me ASAP but nothing since. I would think this is a pretty straightforward, "Oops, we made a mistake" or "Yes, we intentionally removed a feature". Can we get an official response, please?
- schumakuOct 22, 2021Guru - Experienced User
blunderdome85 wrote:
I for one need the option to turn it off restored as fast roaming is too agressive for some of my IoT devices.
Can't see on how Fast Roaming (this is about 802.11r BSS Fast Transition) should have an impact on what you claim here.
It's in no way an active method changing the behaviour of any wireless clients roaming, like BSS transition management with Disassociation Imminent allows the network’s control layer to influence client roaming behavior by providing it the load information of nearby access points (unrelated to FT, this is part of 802.11v). The device takes this information into account when deciding among the possible roam targets This helps devices search quickly for nearby APs that are available as roaming targets by creating an optimized list of channels. When the signal strength of the current connection weakens, your device will scan for target APs from this list (but again, this is not FT, much more 802.11k). The major benefit of FT is when using enterprise security to save part of the 802.1x RADIUS handshake, Less obvious, it works even with PSK, here the benefit isn't as noticeable as with 802.1x, because you don’t have the added latency for remote RADIUS reauthentication.
Most simple IoT WiFI STA are unlikely FT enabled, for these enabling and disabling FT does not change anything.
This does not answer why you have not got any feedback from Netgear yet.
A possible reason is the higher complexity eg. when an AP does support multiple FT and non-FT modes, highest security mode is always preferred by wireless client. This starts with the newer Fast BSS Transition (802.11r) for WPA3, starting with FT-SAE (WPA3-Personal) and FT-EAP (WPA3-Enterprise), whereas FT-PSK (WPA2-Personal) and WPA3 transition modes are included, and have PMF enabled.
- blunderdome85Oct 22, 2021Apprentice
schumaku wrote:
blunderdome85 wrote:I for one need the option to turn it off restored as fast roaming is too agressive for some of my IoT devices.
Can't see on how Fast Roaming (this is about 802.11r BSS Fast Transition) should have an impact on what you claim here.
I appreciate the explanation but, as you said, it's not really relevant as to why the option was removed and why we haven't had a response.
I can tell you from personal experience that with the option on, my IoT devices become signficantly less "sticky" and bounce between the APs quite a bit more than with the option off. Cameras, for example, will bounce every couple of hours with the setting on whereas with it off they'll stay attached for hundreds of hours. Our mobile devices also tend to bounce around quite a bit more and inevitably encounter connection issues as a result.
I understand how 802.11r is supposed to work but, frankly, I don't know for certain if Netgear is using "Fast Roaming" as a blanket term that also covers things like RSSI thresholds or in the stricter sense that you described.
Regardless, having it on is much more a problem for my network than having it off. And we deserve an explanation for why this option (whether it works for you or not) is now missing.
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