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walterLite's avatar
walterLite
Aspirant
Oct 09, 2023

RBR760

I would like to use the Orbi in AP mode  however r it shows that I need to use an Cable to connect my Cable modem to the Orbi .

this is very impractical because No i would have to run cabling in my apartment which is not an option for me .

 

I would  like to connect the cable modem via WIFI to the ORBI AP box - how is this done

 

Please  help - that you for reading this.  hope to hear from you

 

 

8 Replies

  • CrimpOn's avatar
    CrimpOn
    Guru - Experienced User

    All Orbi models are designed to use an Ethernet connection from the WAN port to the Internet Service Provider (ISP) equipment. (As are the WiFi systems from almost every manufacturer.)  If you cannot run a cable, then the router unit must be located close enough to the ISP device to connect with a cable.  Orbi satellites are designed to connect back to the router over WiFi.

     

    That is how they work.  No cable: no connection. Period.

  • michaelkenward's avatar
    michaelkenward
    Guru - Experienced User

    walterLite wrote:

     

    I would  like to connect the cable modem via WIFI to the ORBI AP box - how is this done

     


    No can do. As CrimpOn says, the Orbi router has to be wired to the modem.

     

    The way to connect things to the wifi is to use an Orbi satellite to connect to the Orbi router.

     

    You can plug Ethernet devices into the Orbi satellite. Not enough LAN ports? Plug a switch into the satellite and connect things to that.

     

    If you want to wire the Orbi satellite to the Orbi router you can user  Powerline Ethernet to connect them.

     

     

    • CrimpOn's avatar
      CrimpOn
      Guru - Experienced User

      michaelkenward wrote:

      If you want to wire the Orbi satellite to the Orbi router you can user  Powerline Ethernet to connect them.

      michaelkenward is "spot on" in terms of potential solutions.  Since the Orbi base unit (the RBR760) was designed to be connected to the ISP device with Ethernet, anything that appears to the RBR760 as Ethernet works, including:

      • A Powerline link, which uses a pair of adapters to piggyback a data signal on the electrical wiring:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication 
        Powerline works best when the adapters are on the same electrical circuit.  Ordinary homeowners can identify electrical circuits fairly easily.  Apartment dwellers may find this a bit more challenging.  Often times, builders will write circuit numbers on the inside of electrical cover plates in commercial environments.
      • Multimedia over Coax (MoCA) adapters which use cable TV wiring:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance 
        Many apartment buildings have television outlets in many rooms, anticipating that tenants will find signing up for cable  a better solution than using "rabbit ears" for their television.  (Nowdays, with customers "cutting the cord", those cable TV outlets may be unused.)
      • A pair of WiFi bridge units: one at the ISP location and one at the RBR760 location.

      It is sometimes interesting to wonder how engineers could have designed products differently. When home routers were first introduced, customers had either DSL lines or Cable TV connections.  It made sense for the router to connect directly to the ISP device with a cable.  With so many ISPs now routinely installing combination modem/router/WiFi units, there is more interest in alternative ways to connect a user router than there might have been 15 years ago.

       

      My advice: connect the RBR760 to the ISP device and put the satellite(s) to get the best coverage.

    • walterLite's avatar
      walterLite
      Aspirant

      f you cannot run a cable, then the router unit must be located close enough to the ISP device to connect with a cable.

       

       

      hahahhaha  I need a wireless cable

    • walterLite's avatar
      walterLite
      Aspirant

      If you want to wire the Orbi satellite to the Orbi router you can user  Powerline Ethernet to connect them.

       

       

      Not available  From Netgeer oh no ....

      • CrimpOn's avatar
        CrimpOn
        Guru - Experienced User

        Netgear indeed makes PowerLine adapters:

        https://www.netgear.com/home/wired/powerline/ 

         

        I have PowerLine installed (not Netgear).  When on the same electrical circuit and over a reasonably short distance, the performance is amazing.  On different electrical circuits (in the same breaker box) and a longer distance, PowerLine can be less impressive.