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rscott57
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Apr 01, 2018
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Wired-only router in front of a wireless router

I have an AC3200, R8000 Wifi router.  I want to have a wired-only router with at least 4 (preferably more) ethernet outlets in front of this at the modem and feed the wireless router from the wired router.  Can i do this simply?  What should I buy as the wired-only router?  I want to move the wifi origination to a different location but don't want to move some ethernet-wired equipment where the wifi now sits.

  • > I guess the configuration that I want would be:
    >
    > ISP --- modem --- wired-only-router --- wireless-access-point (with the
    > wired router feeding some PCs, as well as the R8000 as a wireless access
    > point 30 feet away.)

       Do you already have the cable installed for that 30-foot run?  If
    your intention is to run a new cable for (a mere) 30 feet to get to the
    R8000-as-WAP, then why not run two cables to that location, and use the
    R8000 as your only router (Plan A)?  (The second cable would run from a
    LAN Ethernet port on the R8000, back to a (cheap, gigabit) Ethernet
    switch near the modem, to feed the wired clients there.)

    > What would be a good wired-only router, [...]

       I haven't looked lately, and I don't know what your requirements are.
    You might find it easier/cheaper to find a wireless router, and disable
    its radio(s), if you really don't want to leave it/them operational.
    Another 50 feet of cable and a (cheap, gigabit) Ethernet switch could be
    cheaper than a second router (which might be less fancy than the R8000),
    and the one-router Plan A would also be easier to administer.

    > [...] would anything special have to be done to just use the R8000 as
    > a WAP after the wired-only router?

       Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
    for Documentation.  Get the User Manual.  Look for "Use the Router as a
    Wireless Access Point".  But I still think that Plan A (with more cable
    and the (cheap, gigabit) Ethernet switch) would be a better choice.

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  • > [...] Can i do this simply? [...]

       Define "simply".

    > Model: C7000|Nighthawk - AC1900 WiFi Cable Modem Router

       Is this "the modem", or, if not, what is?  What feeds your R8000
    router now?  How much cable are you willing/able to run between these
    locations?

       A logically simple arrangement with some separation between the
    wireless access point and some wired devices might look like:

          ISP --- modem --- wireless-router --- network-switch

    where "---" could be a cable (of an appropriate type) of almost any
    length.  This way, there's no need for a second router, only a network
    switch to provide more Ethernet ports at the end of the cable.

       If cabling and/or geography forces the modem to be near the wired
    devices, and far from the wireless devices, then it might make some
    sense to place a router near the modem, but cascading multiple routers
    can cause multiple problems, so you would probably want an arrangement
    like:

          ISP --- modem --- router --- wireless-access-point

    Here, the R8000 would be configured as a wireless access point (WAP),
    rather than as a full-function router.  The serious router work would be
    done by the new router.  As a WAP, the R8000 would be stupified, acting
    as a simple network switch (with wireless capability).

    > [...] What should I buy as the wired-only router?

       Something which has all the basic router functions which you want
    (NAT, access control, port-forwarding, ...), with or without any
    significant wireless capability?

    > [...] I want to have a wired-only router with at least 4 (preferably
    > more) ethernet outlets in front of this at the modem [...]

       A (cheap, gigabit) Ethernet switch can be used anywhere to fan-out
    from an existing Ethernet port/cable.

    • rscott57's avatar
      rscott57
      Aspirant

      The modem is a separate modem provided by the cable company. 

       

      The current configuation is ISP --- modem --- R8000 --- PCs,  where the cable modem is supplied by the cable company.

       

      I guess the configuration that I want would be:

       

      ISP --- modem --- wired-only-router --- wireless-access-point (with the wired router feeding some PCs, as well as the R8000 as a wireless access point 30 feet away.)

       

       What would be a good wired-only router, and would anything special have to be done to just use the R8000 as a WAP after the wired-only router?  Thanks.

      • antinode's avatar
        antinode
        Guru

        > I guess the configuration that I want would be:
        >
        > ISP --- modem --- wired-only-router --- wireless-access-point (with the
        > wired router feeding some PCs, as well as the R8000 as a wireless access
        > point 30 feet away.)

           Do you already have the cable installed for that 30-foot run?  If
        your intention is to run a new cable for (a mere) 30 feet to get to the
        R8000-as-WAP, then why not run two cables to that location, and use the
        R8000 as your only router (Plan A)?  (The second cable would run from a
        LAN Ethernet port on the R8000, back to a (cheap, gigabit) Ethernet
        switch near the modem, to feed the wired clients there.)

        > What would be a good wired-only router, [...]

           I haven't looked lately, and I don't know what your requirements are.
        You might find it easier/cheaper to find a wireless router, and disable
        its radio(s), if you really don't want to leave it/them operational.
        Another 50 feet of cable and a (cheap, gigabit) Ethernet switch could be
        cheaper than a second router (which might be less fancy than the R8000),
        and the one-router Plan A would also be easier to administer.

        > [...] would anything special have to be done to just use the R8000 as
        > a WAP after the wired-only router?

           Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
        for Documentation.  Get the User Manual.  Look for "Use the Router as a
        Wireless Access Point".  But I still think that Plan A (with more cable
        and the (cheap, gigabit) Ethernet switch) would be a better choice.