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Claudious
Jul 02, 2017Aspirant
Internet connectivity only by RJ-45, but not by WLAN
Bought me a new router today, after careful consideration.
Felt a need to replace the Zyxel-router that my ISP provides, due to the amount of connected devices putting strain on the network.
We are 8 of us in the family, and have cellphones and tablets, NAS, PS4, XBOX, CabelTV-box, Laptops and whatnot.
Last time I tried to replace the ISP-router I failed to get IP-TV to work when I plugged my CabelTV-box in the integrated switch in the back of my new router.
Wife gets sad with no TV-channels in the bedroom.
Managed to solve that by placing a Netgear GS105 gigabit Switch directly in my ISP outlet, before the router. And my cableTV-box in the GS105. So now the cableTV-box doesn´t have to reside behind my new (not ISP-provided) router.
So now my wife can enjoy TV i the bedroom again, even if I toss out the crappy ISP-router.
Got my R7800 Nighthawk set up and working just fine. At least almost.
I can get internet connectivity when plugged in via rj-45 cable, but not when connected wirelessly to the WLAN provided by R7800. Neither through 2,4 or 5GHz.
Funny thing though. I can connect to my old wireless network provided by my old stand-alone accesspoint, and access internet through that. But not through the wireless networks from the R7800.
I can connect to the R7800 wirelessly and also access the webinterface, and so on. But no Internet.
Same thing on my mobile phone.
If I connect to R7800 Wireless - no Internet, but connecting to my old accesspoint - I have Internet.
So why is my R7800 providing internet to its LAN-switch interface only, and not through its WLAN?
Any kind of help greatly appreciated!
Problem is now solved.
The R7800 router was not the problem.
I installed it yet again. Freshly reset to factory defaults. Directly connected to my ISP-outlet without anythig else connected.
Got it up and running and fully functional and then started plugging LAN resources in step-by-step. Ensuring functionality in each step.As it unfolds. My "Circle with Disney" was the cause of my problems. Didn't think that could disturb the WLAN in R7800 since the Circle was paired with the WLAN on my ISP-router, and all the devices (based on MAC adress) where allowed in Circle. But obviously it did!
When connected same problems arose.
Circle works with ARP spoofing and is paired with with the WLAN, wich I supposed works as a type of "Man-in-the-middle" attack where traffic is sort of relayed by Circle in accordance to it´s configuration. Since it pairs with the router and it´s MAC adress based, it can also effect LAN traffic.
Being paired with my old WLAN I never saw the possibility that it actually could effect the traffic on my seperate new WLAN.
Didn´t (and perhaps still can´t) see how the Circle could get in between the traffic passing from the secured new WLAN in R7800, and the R7800´s WAN-interface.
But obviously it clould.
The Circle could probably be made to function together with R7800, if backed up, factory reset, and re-paired. But according to their documentation not with full functionality on both 2,4 and 5GHz.
So I´ll be keeping my R7800 and returning my Circle. A bit sad though since Circle is a otherwise great product wich I can recommend.
Thanks for the help and the input!
11 Replies
- ClaudiousAspirant
To make matters worse:
I can do a google search in my browser (Chrome) and get results when connected to R7800 WLAN, but when clicking any of the results i get "no internet connection" or "connection timed out".
So it seems I have some sort of access to internet after all.
Kind of frustrating. Thinking of reinstalling my ISP-router again and taking myR7800 back to the store.
Would be kind of sad though.
Generally, you should never put a switch between an ISP modem and router. The reason is that most ISPs will only give you 1 IP address, which is assigned to the router. With your setup, it's likely that your CableITV box has grabbed that IP address. This will leave your router out in the cold, without an IP address and, therefore, no connection to the Internet.
It is a bit odd, however, that you have partial Internet connectivity. Log into the router and click on the Advanced tab and look at the information in the upper right panel labeled Internet Port. Is there an IP address, subnet mask and DNS server addresses?
Usually, the proper way to set things up is to put everything behind the router. Most IPTV services uses a technology called IP Multicast. On the R7800, this is enabled by going to WAN Setup on the router and unchecking the Disable IGMP Proxying checkbox, then click Apply. If British Telecom (BT) is your ISP, you may also have enable the BT-specific setting. Reboot the router to ensure that these changes take effect. IP Multicast support on Netgear can be a bit sketchy, so it may not always work.
- ClaudiousAspirant
Yes, I know. It´s not the ideal setup with a switch first. And I was a bit sceptic to it myself as well, but it seems to work.
The whole point of it is to avoid setting up multicast in the router in a way so that the TV works.
The R7800 router does get an IP adress and subnet mask from my ISP through DHCP. It also gets DNS server adresses as well. Otherwise internet connectivity wouldn´t have been available to my LAN either.
Wether my GS105 switch alsp gets an IP adress or not, I can´t say. Haven´t looked. But the TV works!
My guess would be that also the switch has a IP adress assigned in the same adresspool, ´cause I think I activated DHCP-requested IP before connecting. But it has a default IP in case it doesn´t get one assigned.
I installed the GS105 switch a day before replacing the old ISP-router with the R7800. To ensure that the unusual setup works. And it did.
It had full functionality, with Internet, by WLAN access both throug my Asus accesspoint and through the built in WLAN in the ISP-router.Much easier to troubleshoot when it´s a dead connection rather than partially working!