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Concerned-user
Sep 06, 2022Guide
R8000 HAS Internet and does NOT have Internet at the same time
Any thoughts why this may happen with X6 AC3200 WiFi Router (R8000)
- On one hand, almost all connected Wi-Fi devices drop Wi-Fi or claim "no Internet"; Anveo monitoring service says "SIP offline".
- On the other hand, router's admin screens (both via Chrome and Android app) claim that Internet is online.
Here are the details:
Occasionally, I start getting a "No internet" error when I connect to my X6 R8000. When it happens, it happens from all wireless devices at my home -- they drop connection or cannot connect, with an exception of a wireless device (work laptop) that previously established a VPN connection: it stays connected to the Internet until I manually stop the VPN.
Around the same times, I get a "SIP offline alert" email from Anveo.com monitoring service to which I am subscribed.
I can force a Wi-Fi device (such as my phone) to stay connected to the router, and then I can access the router's admin screens via Chrome at routerlogin.net and -- lo and behold! -- it claims that the Internet status is Good(!!!???). But I cannot browse Internet.
I can also access the router's admin screens via my phone's NightHawk Android app (when disabling Wi-Fi on my phone). The app shows that my router's Internet is ONLINE(!!!???). Not only that: I can test the Internet speed from the NightHawk app, and it shows close to expected speeds. Mind you, there's no Internet on all my Wi-Fi devices at that time.
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I found that if I go to the "Basic Internet Setup" admin screen in Chrome and click the green "Test" button, the router reboots (I think) and then the problem disappears for a while: I regain Internet on all connected Wi-Fi devices. Also, I receive a "SIP recovered alert" email from Anveo.com monitoring service.
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My R8000 has the most up to date Firmware Version 1.0.4.84.
NightHawk Android app is up to date.
14 Replies
- KitsapMaster
Two suggestions. You may have already done these.
Using a web browser, manually re-flash the current firmware from a computer connected to the router via Ethernet cable. See here: https://kb.netgear.com/23960/How-do-I-manually-update-the-firmware-on-my-NETGEAR-router
After the firmware re-flash, perform a firmware default reset and configure from scratch. Do not restore a previous saved configuration file.
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
Be sure your using a good quality LAN cable between the modem and router. CAT6 is recommended.SIP ALG should be enabled by default I beieve after a factory reset.
FURRYe38 : the router is behind BGW320-500 fiber modem. The SIP is not on the modem, it's on the OBi202 device behind the router. The LAN cable cannot be a culprit, because while most Wi-Fi devices simultaneously lose the Internet, the VPN-connected device stays on the Internet. Besides, I failed to say in the OP that I am able to force a device to stay on Wi-Fi (that has no Internet) and connect via Chrome to the ISP modem's admin interface and successfully run the Internet speed test on the BGW320-500 modem.
Kitsap : manually re-configuring from scratch gets old with Netgear routers and is the last thing I am looking forward to do. I might have to though... again...
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
Your ISP Modem already has a built in router and wifi. This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the NG router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the NG router gets from the modem. https://kb.netgear.com/25891/DMZ-on-NETGEAR-routers
https://kb.netgear.com/24086/How-do-I-set-up-a-default-DMZ-server-on-my-Nighthawk-router
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the NG router to the modem, LAN to LAN configure AP mode on the NG router.Try option #2...